RSXiMUS

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Rafi again is top of things.

I have to admit, I was a little envious when TTFS announced they can send out map updates you can flash at home or you can flash it back to stock if you need to bring it into the dealership.

It's great to hear we can do it with the RRR Flash also.

Definitely interested in upgrading to the OBD flash tool.

Supraman16

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I'm going to put my 2 cents on this topic. I have a 2015 Subaru Forester XT that I got ProTuned via Cobb Accessport. My ECU actually got bricked by the ProTuner during the final flash while it was getting tuned. Then I had to send the ECU into to Cobb directly to get recovered. Then my ECU got bricked again when I was flashing it myself between maps because there wasn't enough power. I called up Cobb and they told me that I have to have a full strength battery charger hooked up to the battery at all times while flashing given the high wattage demand the ECU flashing requires. Basically what I'm saying is that Raffi is right, flashing the ECU via the OBD port is much more hassle than it's worth in my opinion. That being said, it'll still be a nice option to have for those who would like to do it themselves and save on shipping costs of having to mail the ECU in all the time.

FFM

When I worked for Volvo, and I'm sure any modern day vehicle, it was CRITICAL to have a steady power supply via a monitored battery tender while doing software updates. Loss of power was usually what dicked up a module flash. They aren't cheap either and I don't know if I would trust an autozone **** battery tender lol.

Rickna

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Personally, I'd rather have 100% assurance that the flash is done correctly. The risk of bricking justifies the inconvenience. In Rafi I trust!

RRRacing

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Thank you for sharing that experience. There are many similar experiences on the net... but keep in mind, Cobb is the best and most reliable OBD device, and there is still the possibility of problems.




Thank you! When we flash ECU's directly to the board without OBD, we can be absolutley sure of the outcome, 100% of the time. Pure and simple, this is the most reliable way of doing it, period.

We will offer the OBD user flash option only because another tuner is offering it and some folks want it, not because we think its the best way to go.

Rafi

golfaddict

Rafi,

Earlier in this thread did you mention that you were pursuing the possibility that further tuning would maybe lead to more gains on PPE (or Sikky) headered vehicles? If this is true, is the effort still going and would it be advisable to wait to order the tune?

Thanks.

PDP180180

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Look at it another way, I'm all the way out across the Atlantic in the UK. Flashing the ECU myself would probably be a lot easier than shipping it over to Rafi and his team, but I want the peace of mind that it will be done right.

Sounds like anyone doing it themselves may well end up sending their ECU in if they brick it anyway!

It's not as if you should be chopping and changing your tune all the time either?! Unless you alter things significantly, or Rafi comes up with some changes from all the track testing data, the flash shouldn't need to change.

Only reason I'm holding off on pulling the trigger on getting mine done is I want to add headers first. That way the S/C kit is the only other change in the pipeline that should need a reflash.

I'm sure with the quick turnaround offered the peace of mind will win over most people.

Keep up the great work Rafi.

juanmedina

I like the OBD2 option since I want to run E85 and if I have to I can switch back to 93oct easy

RRRacing

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Hi Juan, you will not be able to switch easy... you will have to reflash the ECU everytime you want to swtich. This is not like an Accessport for a Subaru where you can do easy map switching.

Rafi

SPearson79

for e85 to gas - the tank has to be drained - I'm not sure the gains are going to be what you are expecting running ethanol. It'll make more, but not like on a turbo car.

RRRacing

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Good point, you can't install a flex fuel sensor and integrate it into this ECU.

Rafi

Lets Drive

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I'd rather your shop do it for the cheaper price, especially since I don't anticipate that I'll be reflashing too often. Also, I'm on the east coast a few hours away and shipping is very quick and cheap. I want to say your shop received my ECU in the AM and had it ready to ship by the PM.

juanmedina

Have you seen what the new gt350 gained on E85 from a 93oct? The gains were significant, 23.5hp and 22tq

I would only need to change maps about once a year....

kbtoiz

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The OBD option is a good for people that cant afford too much down time. I'll admit that I would love to do this myself, but I dont trust myself lol

RRRacing

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2/16/2016 Update on the OBD self-flashing option:

(1) Everyone who has already purchased a tune from us, or plans to purchase a tune from us will have the option of purchasing the OBD option at low cost. No worries!

(2) We expect to release the OBD option in 2 weeks.

(3) Those who have sent us their ECU, or plan to send us their ECU in the next 2 weeks WILL NOT HAVE TO RE-SEND us the ECU, after purchasing the OBD option.

I hope that all makes sense and I am being clear!

Rafi