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Old 03-24-16 | 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by RRRacing
Update 3/24:

So looks like we just spent $700+ on an RCF throttlebody so that you all don't have to! We did pic up a few horsepower, but its very minor difference:

Results (RR-Racing 87mm MAF Intake + 79mm TB vs 84mm RCF TB):



RR-Racing 87mm Tuned Intake with 79mm throttlebody vs 84mm RCF throttlebody.
I'm sure that number will look a lot better combine with your supercharger. Thanks for sharing and keeping us all informed. Keep up the awesome work!
Old 03-24-16 | 07:44 AM
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Looks like the camshafts/heads are the limits in this. That's probably another reason why all the intakes doesn't make more power than stock.

This engine seems quite well designed for its configuration.
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From the original 2UR-GSE, the "Blue Top" has a larger intake valve lift (13mm up from 12mm), higher compression (12.3 up from 11.8), and also has different timing on the intake and exhaust side. The intake manifold on the "Blue Top" is also slightly more free flowing compared to the original "Silver Top".

I would be very interested to see what the original could do with some port work and a mild cam. I don't think that the throttle body is the limiting factor in the equation.

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Originally Posted by rw3
From the original 2UR-GSE, the "Blue Top" has a larger intake valve (13mm up from 12mm), higher compression (12.3 up from 11.8), and also has different timing on the intake and exhaust side. The intake manifold on the "Blue Top" is also slightly more free flowing compared to the original "Silver Top".

I would be very interested to see what the original could do with some port work and a mild cam. I don't think that the throttle body is the limiting factor in the equation.
Those valve sizes are a joke, right?

I'd say different cam now. Port work is still optional until someone puts a head on a flowbench and determines flow does not improve with more lift . Don't laugh, the 2JZ-GTE head does not benefit from lift over 8mm until you port it. AMHIK.
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Damn!

Was hoping for more, as no doubt were you guys!

Guess it proves one thing, full speed ahead on that supercharger kit Rafi!

That should add some HP.

Thanks for trying this though.
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Originally Posted by Max16
Looks like the camshafts/heads are the limits in this. That's probably another reason why all the intakes doesn't make more power than stock.

This engine seems quite well designed for its configuration.

Well, we picked up a solid 10hp from our tuned 87mm intake... so we are putting it into production and will be updating this thread as we release pics and details.

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Originally Posted by RRRacing
Well, we picked up a solid 10hp from our tuned 87mm intake... so we are putting it into production and will be updating this thread as we release pics and details.

-Rafi
Two questions:
1. Will this be the intake setup used for the SC
2. Does the tune need to be updated or will it 'learn' the increased air volume

Just wanting to know if you need to take my money now, or later!

Thanks!
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Originally Posted by ZaxF
Two questions:
1. Will this be the intake setup used for the SC
2. Does the tune need to be updated or will it 'learn' the increased air volume

Just wanting to know if you need to take my money now, or later!

Thanks!

Without a re-flash of the ECU, the car will not even run... it will be way too lean. The stock MAF pipe diameter is 80mm, and we increase it to 87mm, so the airflow maps need to be completely recalibrated for this to work.

The 87mm MAF housing will be re-used for the SC, but the airbox will probably not be reused.

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Originally Posted by RRRacing
Without a re-flash of the ECU, the car will not even run... it will be way too lean. The stock MAF pipe diameter is 80mm, and we increase it to 87mm, so the airflow maps need to be completely recalibrated for this to work.

The 87mm MAF housing will be re-used for the SC, but the airbox will probably not be reused.

Rafi
Should I plan on needing a tune? I have your titanium intake on the way, and then I will be ordering the exhaust with the Magnaflow mufflers.
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Originally Posted by isfdave86
Should I plan on needing a tune? I have your titanium intake on the way, and then I will be ordering the exhaust with the Magnaflow mufflers.

yes, you definitely need a tune for this intake, it will not work otherwise.

You also need headers for this intake to add additional power, this intake does not add power without headers.

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Originally Posted by RRRacing
yes, you definitely need a tune for this intake, it will not work otherwise.

You also need headers for this intake to add additional power, this intake does not add power without headers.

Rafi
Sounds like it needs to be a package deal for new customers. RR Racing Power Package Stage 1 (Stage 2 soon to come!)...
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That's sounds about right considering your won't make any power without Headers and the tune for this mod, stages would make sense for clarity purposes.....
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So you get intake, tune, headers and an option for cat-back...

Stage 1 - up to 75 whp

You use coupon code - IGOTWOOD

J/K..

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Originally Posted by Bigjon3475
So you get intake, tune, headers and an option for cat-back...

Stage 1 - up to 75 whp

You use coupon code - IGOTWOOD

J/K..
It's crazy to think with just I/H/E and Tune our ISF's will gain 75whp.

That's quite a healthy boost for ANY naturally aspirated motor.
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Originally Posted by Bigjon3475
Sounds like it needs to be a package deal for new customers. RR Racing Power Package Stage 1 (Stage 2 soon to come!)...

That is a great idea... we are going to do exactly that. We currently have a tune + header package, but once the intake is available (2-3 weeks) we will do this:

Stage I: exhaust + tune
Stage II: exhaust + tune + header
Stage III: exhaust + tune + header + tuned intake

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