**GB** PTS Full True Dual Exhaust–Joe Z series for the 08+ IS-F **
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Keep it dry in storage and/or garage...
Wrap up all the ends and hang onto it in case you ever need to put the stock one back on in the near or distant future.
Example: if you ever sell your car.
Enjoy
Joe Z !
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Good advice, Joe. I'm keeping mine in case i should want to change it back on selling, tho I can't imagine not having my 'F'....![Stick Out Tongue](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif)
BTW, She will be coming out of mothballs this or next week and the first stop is to get my new exhaust on......-- I'm pumped....
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BTW, She will be coming out of mothballs this or next week and the first stop is to get my new exhaust on......-- I'm pumped....
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Retailers can sell products for whatever they like. If they want to charge more, it's their prerogative. As far as the "middle man" comments above, it's getting tiring having to explain over and over that Joe doesn't sell product. He develops and manufactures product, but he doesn't sell anything. That's where retailers come in. ![Wink](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
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You have the MFG (PTS) / JoeZ the designer / Retailer (aka Middle Man) / Consumer. So I was incorrect in that if Joe was a sponsor he could sell direct to the consumer and cut the middle man?? Would be no different then what Mazzuri was doing (factory direct). MFG/Design his own and sell direct. That was my point. Think you took it the wrong way
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No, it's just getting tiring seeing the only posts you make about Joe Z be about him not being a vendor, especially in a group buy thread of his product from one of the oldest and largest CL vendors. No one is telling you that you have to like anything, but this is getting old.
I'm not sure you understand that Joe has a full-time job, and this is not his career - so why in the world would he want to sign up as a vendor so he can sell directly to the public, when he already has retailers who will do that (quite well) for him? There's a lot of work involved with retailing product, and trust me when I tell you that Joe has no interest in taking on any of that. You may be able to buy directly from some other (bigger) companies, but believe me you're paying for that service in the price of the product.
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I'm not sure you understand that Joe has a full-time job, and this is not his career - so why in the world would he want to sign up as a vendor so he can sell directly to the public, when he already has retailers who will do that (quite well) for him? There's a lot of work involved with retailing product, and trust me when I tell you that Joe has no interest in taking on any of that. You may be able to buy directly from some other (bigger) companies, but believe me you're paying for that service in the price of the product.
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I think you are taking my post and answer to the thread a few pages back (to another member) the wrong way. (please go back and see what I responded to) I simply answered a question that was posted as to why they cant buy direct from JoeZ to save $$. It was a straight forward and honest answer that I gave. You call it a retailer and most from a business stand point call it the "middle man". It was in no way bashing how he does his business and yes I do know what Joe does and this is not his full time job. I didn't see that question asked where I posted so I was not giving incorrect info. I have not once posted bad about his product either. I can show posts I have made that compliment his product. I have sent people to get his exhaust! There where other things that I did and do disagree with but that was put to rest and I wont have anything to do with that.
Selling direct to the client does have its pluses and minuses and in most cases you can lower the cost by eliminating the middle man. Makes perfect sense why the member asked the question to me. But I have enough background to know and understand how this whole thing works. Maybe I should have been more clear in my response on how this whole thing works as you did. Sorry my bad.
Why are you attacking me?? I haven't stated anything incorrect or said anything bad about anyone. I answered a question and helped explain something to another member and you are attacking me for it. That person thanked me for my response and done and over with....
If you truly feel that my post was attacking or negative in anyway then just delete it. There was no intent for that.
Enjoy the rest of your Easter
Selling direct to the client does have its pluses and minuses and in most cases you can lower the cost by eliminating the middle man. Makes perfect sense why the member asked the question to me. But I have enough background to know and understand how this whole thing works. Maybe I should have been more clear in my response on how this whole thing works as you did. Sorry my bad.
Why are you attacking me?? I haven't stated anything incorrect or said anything bad about anyone. I answered a question and helped explain something to another member and you are attacking me for it. That person thanked me for my response and done and over with....
If you truly feel that my post was attacking or negative in anyway then just delete it. There was no intent for that.
Enjoy the rest of your Easter
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Guys let's take it to PM please.
As the GB associated with this thread is over, I'm going to close it now. I'll PM Carson and make sure they're aware of the demand for a GB on this item and will bump this thread if I see them post up another group buy on it.
As the GB associated with this thread is over, I'm going to close it now. I'll PM Carson and make sure they're aware of the demand for a GB on this item and will bump this thread if I see them post up another group buy on it.
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