New Lexus Hybrid: CT 200h (42 MPG) Updated with F-sport Debut
10-21-10, 03:49 PM
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10-21-10, 04:28 PM
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It seems that, by only offering them in the JDM, they're just getting practice and field experience and whatnot to see if they can be improved enough to export CVT paddle shifting on future Lexus hybrids.
Toyota/Lexus, BTW, has done this sort of thing in the past. Back around the year 2000, they fitted a JDM version of the 2JZ inline 6 with direct injection in, I think, the Progrés sedan, yet direct injection was never exported to major markets until the 2006 Lexus GS 300.
10-22-10, 11:31 AM
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I would like something like the IS 300 and I believe IS 350 F sport has, leather sides and Alacantra middle (for the seat). Grippy, nice.
Paddle shifters and CVT= huh?
Trust me, hybrids do not sound sexy when pushed, sounds very artificial, like R2D2 running from Ewoks.
Paddle shifters and CVT= huh?
Trust me, hybrids do not sound sexy when pushed, sounds very artificial, like R2D2 running from Ewoks.
10-22-10, 11:50 AM
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Simulated gears for CVT have been in many production cars for years. I don't understand why so many people are surprised at the combination now (particularly since the GS450h has had it since day 1). It's nothing more than fixing the gear ratio, or in the case of HSD's e-CVT, the power-split ratio. It doesn't make the engine note sound sexier but it still helps passing, engine braking, corner exiting like conventional gear-shifting does.
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10-22-10, 02:46 PM
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Simulated gears for CVT have been in many production cars for years. I don't understand why so many people are surprised at the combination now (particularly since the GS450h has had it since day 1). It's nothing more than fixing the gear ratio, or in the case of HSD's e-CVT, the power-split ratio. It doesn't make the engine note sound sexier but it still helps passing, engine braking, corner exiting like conventional gear-shifting does.
People are talking about it since it is something new, as CVT's and PSD's are similar in theory but fundamentally VERY different.
Here is the 2010 Prius hybrid transaxle. You are looking at motor/generator #1 (MG1), Power Split Device (PSD), motor/generator #2 (MG2), and finally the reduction gear. Simple!
Up next is the GM's 2-Mode hybrid transaxle. The first picture is just the motors and planetary gearsets. The second picture if the entire transaxle.
Below is the bare-bone Dual Clutch Transmission:
Audi 7-speed Dual Clutch transmission:
Now, going into "traditional" 8-speed transmission:
Up next is the GM's 2-Mode hybrid transaxle. The first picture is just the motors and planetary gearsets. The second picture if the entire transaxle.
Below is the bare-bone Dual Clutch Transmission:
Audi 7-speed Dual Clutch transmission:
Now, going into "traditional" 8-speed transmission:
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10-22-10, 02:57 PM
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People are talking about it since it is something new, as CVT's and PSD's are similar in theory but fundamentally VERY different.
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10-22-10, 03:02 PM
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The GS450h has had 6 simulated gears since 2007. Works just like the manual mode of any Lexus auto tranny. What's new for the CT200h F-sport here is just the paddle shifters, which are simply an alternative to using the conventional console shifter to do the same thing.Yes people confuse them all the time, although that wasn't the point of my post.
10-22-10, 03:06 PM
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The “D” transmission range is
used for performance, normal, or
economical driving. Only use the
"S" transmission ranges if needed
to help maintain vehicle speed
when going down steep grades.
The lower the range, the greater
the engine braking force.
used for performance, normal, or
economical driving. Only use the
"S" transmission ranges if needed
to help maintain vehicle speed
when going down steep grades.
The lower the range, the greater
the engine braking force.
10-22-10, 03:06 PM
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http://www.automotiveaddicts.com/mag...testdrive.html
With 1-6 gears and sequential shifting you can also manually change gears quickly and smoothly.
In addition, the hybrid powerplant, which goes to sleep at stoplights, operated seamlessly, and the continuously variable transmission, with its steering-wheel-mounted paddles, never sounded stressed and allowed me to select from six specific gear ratios.
Last edited by Mister Two; 10-22-10 at 03:14 PM.