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iTrader: (2)

I would only get it if there were an array of accessories for it. No, not floor mats and applique accessories, I mean more like the Fsport parts (heavy emphasis on lowering springs!) like 1SICKLEX said

Otherwise, it's another IS for me

mowmow

+1 on factory tune accessories (i.e. suspension, sway bars, exhausts, wheels, etc)just like the Scion brand. It should be customizable to the specific buyer's taste and need.

ABC

I've been thinking about getting a hybrid (prius or insight probably), but if this car comes in under $30k decently equipped and hits the reported ~44mpg, i may finally have an excuse to trade in the IS

Magellan55

Not sure there's a market for this - just looks like a more expensive Mazda 3. Also not sure those that would shop for a small hatch like this can afford Lexus service anyway. And an A3 TDI would stomp it in highway mpg, handling, and 0-60. Seems the IS/HS is the lowest price point Lexus can go in the market, and even the HS is having trouble finding buyers.

Just seems like a bad move.

khoab88

iTrader: (5)

ct200h will only has 6 speakers everyone! maybe 1 more with the ML upgrade. how does it feel when paying ~$30k for a high-end prius with just 6-7 speaker. This system is similar to the new Scion XB.

LexFather

HS starts nearly at 35k and hits 45k with options. If anything the market thinks it is too expensive.

I think your A3 assumptions are just that TDis are not performers for the most part.

pavelekPL

actually it already has 6 speakers in the front. Its gonna be more like 10(1 tweeter and low in each rear doors)

mowmow

Nice 6 up front so most likely at least another 2 at the rear so safe assumption of 8 - 10 speakers standard, 12 speakers for ML ? ( add 1 center channel and 1 sub ) or maybe even more ?

LexFather

I assume the car at shows has some sort of ML option? I didn't see a ML option at the mini-site though.

To me the youth like to bump their stereo systems so it should be made an option, even a stand alone one.

Magellan55

You driven one lately? MotorTrend has the A3 TDI 0-60 at 8.5 seconds, which is 2 seconds faster than a Prius so likely is faster than this CT200h, and about as fast as the HS. Plus, the instant torque of a diesel makes it more fun to drive than the 0-60 implies, especially compared to the throttle non-response of the CVT in these hybrids. Sure, it's no racer, but add in the handling finesse that only the Germans can do, and you've got the sportiest fuel-sipper out there. 42 mpg highway and a base price of $30K (plus a $1500 tax rebate), and it seems it would be a serious competitor to the CT200, not to mention the HS, especially to anyone looking for a driver's car.

Lexus does have reliability going for it though, big time. I'm not saying the A3 TDI is a better car overall than the CT, or the HS (heck, I bought an HS over the A3) - just don't dismiss it based on some pre-conceived notions of diesels from a decade ago. It would be like dismissing a GS450h because "hybrids are slow"

sclx

I would have to agree - I'm just waiting for the MPG numbers and price on the CT200h to make my decision, and the other choice is the A3 TDI. I have never owned an Audi, and have owned 8 Lexuses (or Lexii?). So I'm pretty biased, but I will still compare the two.

khoab88

iTrader: (5)

1 more speaker in the middle underneath the front windshield. So is this some kind of misrepresentation on the website? Clearly it's 7 speakers in the front.

dkidwell

You guys keep talking about the younger buyers. How about us older retired guys? This car sounds like just what I would want.

Mv350

iTrader: (23)

i hope the suspension setup is like the is's, so i can slam it on coils

lapdrn

I'll buy one myself. hope Lexus will invite me in one of their CTh events here in Los Angeles