my new 19s... wiiiide
04-24-04, 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by HoeBag
id like to hear what everyones opinions are... whether theyre negative or positive, so dont hold back if you have somethin to say
id like to hear what everyones opinions are... whether theyre negative or positive, so dont hold back if you have somethin to say
04-24-04, 05:35 PM
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Originally posted by HoeBag
that would be cool in the imaginary world where the spectators passed out trophies and not the judges...
that would be cool in the imaginary world where the spectators passed out trophies and not the judges...
04-24-04, 05:39 PM
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I'm with sk8er and FLiP... why in God's green earth would you do that to a FWD car? 
If you're trying to set a standard for us ES owners, I'm sorry; you got the wrong crowd. If you want a staggered look, why don't you consider purchasing and modding a GS, instead of ruining the fine luxury solid looks of the ES?
If this all doesn't hit some sense to your head, here are some past quotes from a related thread:
This is from 1SICKLEX:
And this is from Nabeel:
I assume like all of us, you use the ES as your everyday vehicle. With the new wheels and tires set up like it, you're going to produce LOTS of problems with your suspension components (stock or not) down the road. It may not be evident now, but it will happen. Not worth the risk, especially for a daily driver.
And I also assume you would expect "flames" by others on the display of your wheel/tire setup. HoeBag, THIS IS THE REASON THREADS GET CLOSED DOWN
Not a smart move at all.
Thanks for listening,
lexusk8
If you're trying to set a standard for us ES owners, I'm sorry; you got the wrong crowd. If you want a staggered look, why don't you consider purchasing and modding a GS, instead of ruining the fine luxury solid looks of the ES?If this all doesn't hit some sense to your head, here are some past quotes from a related thread:
This is from 1SICKLEX:
Onto a staggered setup on FWD, that is a no, no. Staggered is a functional thing for RWD cars. It allows more tire onto the rear, where the power delivery is. Staggered on FWD serves no purpose and you will get bashed for it. On the Acura boards, a couple guys did it and got FLAMED BADLY. It makes no sense on a FWD car.
Wider rear wheels/tires on a FWD car? LOL!! I'm sorry, but that is really not a smart thing to do. Do you know anything about vehicle dynamics? An ES300 understeers enough as is, putting wider rear rubber will do nothing but amplify that handling trait. Sure, I understand that you want the looks, but in an emergency accident-avoidance situation, your car will not be able to handle as it is supposed to, and your chances of getting in an accident of far greater because the balance from the factory has been thrown out of whack. Going after looks is cool, but doing it at the expense of vehicle performance, safety, and function is flat-out dumb.
And I also assume you would expect "flames" by others on the display of your wheel/tire setup. HoeBag, THIS IS THE REASON THREADS GET CLOSED DOWN
Not a smart move at all.Thanks for listening,
lexusk8
04-24-04, 05:48 PM
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actually i knew i would get flamed.. i dont really care...
im prolly the only one with the ***** (or crazy enough) to do a staggered setup on an es300.... you guys may not like it, but i do... i like the lips on the wheels, and if you think im crazy to do staggered on this car.. these wheels were on an eclipse before me, and you would be out of your mind to flame his car since itll be at SEMA next year
but anyways... i do respect yalls opinions, but telling me that it doesnt serve a purpose wont make me change my mind especially when my car will be a lot wider soon...
im prolly the only one with the ***** (or crazy enough) to do a staggered setup on an es300.... you guys may not like it, but i do... i like the lips on the wheels, and if you think im crazy to do staggered on this car.. these wheels were on an eclipse before me, and you would be out of your mind to flame his car since itll be at SEMA next year
but anyways... i do respect yalls opinions, but telling me that it doesnt serve a purpose wont make me change my mind especially when my car will be a lot wider soon...
04-24-04, 05:49 PM
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Originally posted by lexusk8
I'm with sk8er and FLiP... why in God's green earth would you do that to a FWD car? If you're trying to set a standard for us ES owners, I'm sorry; you got the wrong crowd. If you want a staggered look, why don't you consider purchasing and modding a GS, instead of ruining the fine luxury solid looks of the ES?
If this all doesn't hit some sense to your head, here are some past quotes from a related thread:
This is from 1SICKLEX:
And this is from Nabeel:
I assume like all of us, you use the ES as your everyday vehicle. With the new wheels and tires set up like it, you're going to produce LOTS of problems with your suspension components (stock or not) down the road. It may not be evident now, but it will happen. Not worth the risk, especially for a daily driver.
And I also assume you would expect "flames" by others on the display of your wheel/tire setup. HoeBag, THIS IS THE REASON THREADS GET CLOSED DOWN Not a smart move at all.
Thanks for listening,
lexusk8
I'm with sk8er and FLiP... why in God's green earth would you do that to a FWD car?
If you're trying to set a standard for us ES owners, I'm sorry; you got the wrong crowd. If you want a staggered look, why don't you consider purchasing and modding a GS, instead of ruining the fine luxury solid looks of the ES?If this all doesn't hit some sense to your head, here are some past quotes from a related thread:
This is from 1SICKLEX:
And this is from Nabeel:
I assume like all of us, you use the ES as your everyday vehicle. With the new wheels and tires set up like it, you're going to produce LOTS of problems with your suspension components (stock or not) down the road. It may not be evident now, but it will happen. Not worth the risk, especially for a daily driver.
And I also assume you would expect "flames" by others on the display of your wheel/tire setup. HoeBag, THIS IS THE REASON THREADS GET CLOSED DOWN
Not a smart move at all.Thanks for listening,
lexusk8
04-24-04, 07:03 PM
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Safety is not an issue... He's got more traction front and back than he did before...
What you people should remember bringing safety up is that he's added some traction in he front, and a lot in the back. The front end IS NOT going to spin any easier than it would have before, so that is really just a moot arguement.
^^^ This is why we also agreed that he needs a thicker rear sway bar, that would help the front end maintain traction a ton.
What you people should remember bringing safety up is that he's added some traction in he front, and a lot in the back. The front end IS NOT going to spin any easier than it would have before, so that is really just a moot arguement.
^^^ This is why we also agreed that he needs a thicker rear sway bar, that would help the front end maintain traction a ton.
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04-24-04, 07:07 PM
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So I would be careful before the "This has no purpose" argue starts because I'm sure 75% of this board could be included for isntalling third party intakes... I won't go there, some people have hard feelings!
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04-24-04, 11:54 PM
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safety? i dont see what isnt safe about it... i know i need thicker sway bars.. not a prob
the car actually handles A LOT better than before with the 18x7.5
if its not yalls style.. i can understand that, this just sets me out from the crowd
the car actually handles A LOT better than before with the 18x7.5
if its not yalls style.. i can understand that, this just sets me out from the crowd
04-25-04, 02:43 AM
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Well no ES's rolled off the shelf like this, and basically wasnt designed for it .. So thats why safety is always an issue... I think you do have an issue with people liking your car.. I call it a cry for acceptance.. But you never think of the down side to why you do things.. It may look good now.. But if something break's, its your accident!
Of course some people are going to think it looks cool, and say "Yay man, love the look".. But it's five seconds of aplause.... ... I'm with the other guys on this!
Chris
Of course some people are going to think it looks cool, and say "Yay man, love the look".. But it's five seconds of aplause.... ... I'm with the other guys on this!
Chris