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Old 05-11-05, 05:05 AM
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I work with a brake specialist,
I am getting all my info from a brake specialist and a 15yr mechanic.
So which one is it now?
You would think If I worked with the guy I would get my info from him also.

Arnt you the guy who runs his Lexus with no intake and no exhaust?
Old 05-11-05, 06:07 AM
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Look for a Checker auto store if you need rotors turned.
I was quoted $10.00 a rotor but the register rang'em up a $8.00 ea!

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Old 05-12-05, 05:10 PM
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Arnt you the guy who runs his Lexus with no intake and no exhaust?

Until I weld my turbo up? Yes... Even if that won't come up, at least I'll still be faster than you!









Maybe try to make a "smart" comment when you can say anything to back it up next time???

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Old 05-12-05, 06:04 PM
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Thats good, your car should be pretty sweet when its done up, Keep us posted.
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Originally Posted by Nixsun79
LMAO, turning rotors takes off almost no metal. It doesnt thin the rotor much at all and it doesnt make them heat up faster. I work with a brake specialist, turning your rotors is the smart thing to do, replacing them is throwing away your money.
I'd like to meet your 'specialist'. I have read all your replies thus far, you are all over the place and really have no godamn clue what you are talking about. When rotors get cut the amount of metal that gets removed is not always the same, it depends on how bad the rotor is. If you were to use your brakes at highway speeds few times in a row, chances are the cut rotors are going to heat up and warp wayyy faster than brand new ones....once again there is less metal on them. I don't no why you think buying new rotors is a waste, they are cheap....spending money to have old warped ones cut actually is the 'waste'.
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Originally Posted by Nixsun79
Thats good, your car should be pretty sweet when its done up, Keep us posted.
Hahaha, now you are all nice after he made you look like a complete and total a@%hole!
Old 05-13-05, 04:17 AM
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Hahaha, now you are all nice after he made you look like a complete and total a@%hole!
Look I dont think you know this, but ClubLexus is not a flame board, hence the reason for my comment. Obviously Pheonix was starting to get pissed becuase I asked a question about his car then he came back with a rude post. So I was a man and squashed it.

And if you want to buy new rotors for your car, go ahead. I dont care what you do. You are right that certian situations would call for a rotor replacement. There is a guage that they go buy for the tollerance when turning the rotor, some people will have no choice but to replace. But if you have enoguh rotor left get them turned. It does not degrade the integrety of the rotor and it IS CHEAPER. If you want to buy those cheap *** rotors for under $20, that by the way have to be turned 90% of the time before they get put on the car, then go ahead if it makes you happy. Like I said before when you turn a rotor your loosing about a 6000th of an inch of metal, that is not going to weaken the integrity of the rotor.

To each his own, stop trying to start a flame board or I will contact an admin.

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Old 05-13-05, 05:35 AM
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Ok, we were both right and both wrong. So lets just squash this debate and move on with our lives.

Old 05-14-05, 05:37 PM
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Turning rotors has been a common practice for many years. My understanding is that you would only turn rotors when they are warped or perhaps have some damage to be removed. Typically it is not necessary. As well, there are clearly defined thickness specifications for all vehicles regarding the removal amount and number of times a rotor can be turned (total removal). Yes, the more removed the more prone to warping, but not a prohibitive issue or no one would do it.

I feel comfortable turning OEM rotors. I cannot speak for others, but would be especially hesitant of no name copies. Regarding Brembos, since they are drilled/slotted, I would be concerned about turning them. In general, drilled and slotted rotors have a higher likelihood of warping. This is why the Brembo weighs so much more then the OEM. Still the drilled Brembo is a good rotor.

Be very careful about no name drilled rotors, these are really prone to failure - they are hand drilled and not fabricated with the holes and this is a structural issue.

Recently I had my OEM rotors turned. I didn't require new brakes but had developed a slight shimmy during high speed braking. My mechanic confirmed slight warping and suggested I get them turned. The brake performance now is excellent again. Cost was about $80 (but keep in mind that this included all labor and turning).

So it is up to each individual, but turning or replacement are both acceptable. Turning is less expensive. Be cautious about cheap aftermarket rotors.

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BREMBO BLANKS... Drilled / slotted were not in discussion.

People owning drilled rotors have no clue, and you need to be racing on a race track to need slotted rotors.
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Originally Posted by Pheonix
BREMBO BLANKS... Drilled / slotted were not in discussion.

People owning drilled rotors have no clue, and you need to be racing on a race track to need slotted rotors.
Ive had my slotted rotors for 3yrs and just had them checked a few weeks ago when I got my tire replaced. No warpage and pads are still strong.
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Glad we are back on subject matter...

Question ---- If you change your pads frequently does this minimize the chance of rotor warpage? I am planning on going drilled or drilled + slotted for both my SC and my Es and would prefer not to have the rotors turned down toooo much if i could avoid it...
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Originally Posted by silversprucesc3
Glad we are back on subject matter...

Question ---- If you change your pads frequently does this minimize the chance of rotor warpage? I am planning on going drilled or drilled + slotted for both my SC and my Es and would prefer not to have the rotors turned down toooo much if i could avoid it...
No. Warpage is generally caused by rapid temperature changes, such as going through a water puddle when the rotors are hot. Also, when going through a car wash immediately after your brakes are used a lot.
Old 05-16-05, 02:55 PM
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^ and washing your car after driving it.

Most of the time it comes from the rotors being relitively cold, then you using the brakes hard. It's that sudden heat shock that kills them.


Even worse if you're "smart" enough to buy drilled rotors. Where-as a normal rotor will warp, drilled rotors are notorious for cracking / splitting in half. (Not to mention they degrade performance... I'll be so glad when the "bling" goes away and people quit buying such an inferior POS).
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Pheonix,

I should leave this alone, but...

This board is supposed to be a helpful and enjoyable experience. It is obviosly that you are smart about cars, but why the attitude. If you provide information in a factual way rather then a sarcastic way it would be much more helpful and better received. I am sure everyone would agree that we would welcome an education and that is a primary reason I use this board.

Thanks for your contribution, but please be more considerate and let's continue with some productive communication about our ES300s.

Dan
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