Better Braking
12-25-06, 11:01 AM
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Better Braking
what can i do to my 2000 es300 to get better braking like that new car kind of braking. i already have new brakes and rotors. maybe go bigger? but i dont know where to buy them from i checked ebay all they have is stock.
12-25-06, 07:52 PM
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The stock system can activate ABS well over 70mph. Don't be stupid. Upgrading brakes is a really dumb waste of money.
You need traction... Not more braking power.
Brembo blanks
Hawk HPS pads
DOT4 fluid.
Of which the brake fluid is 95% of any brake fading on said setup you will experiance during a track day.
Stainless lines have no affect on these brakes. The simple fact is that the pedal feel is delivered by the vacuum assist, and brake booster. To get a different pedal feel would nesessitate being the first person on the Camry platform to swap said units.
You need traction... Not more braking power.
Brembo blanks
Hawk HPS pads
DOT4 fluid.
Of which the brake fluid is 95% of any brake fading on said setup you will experiance during a track day.
Stainless lines have no affect on these brakes. The simple fact is that the pedal feel is delivered by the vacuum assist, and brake booster. To get a different pedal feel would nesessitate being the first person on the Camry platform to swap said units.
12-25-06, 08:15 PM
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I am not knowledgable on this car what so ever, so I'm just talking theoretical.
Wouldn't better braking ability benefit the car? Although you can activate ABS from 70mph, isn't the time required from GO to LOCK the time you want to decrease?
Wouldn't better braking ability benefit the car? Although you can activate ABS from 70mph, isn't the time required from GO to LOCK the time you want to decrease?
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12-26-06, 02:37 PM
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Once you activate ABS (basically you're locking up the wheels), you wont benefit from bigger brakes. Think about it: ABS is releasing pressure on the brakes by pumping them quickly so that the wheels continue to roll. So if your stock brakes can lock up easily, upgrading them won't really shorten stopping distances that much.
Try grippier tires if that helps.
Try grippier tires if that helps.
12-26-06, 04:15 PM
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but like when i hit the pedal theres a lil play from when i touch it to when it starts braking, and i want a more stiffer, if thats what you would calll it but. like i had a rental a 06 a4 and the brakes were just amazing i kinda wanted something like that if thats possibile
12-26-06, 04:40 PM
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That's simply how a Toyota brake pedal operates, and all non all out ports cars should really... It gives the moron drivers in the world the ability to come to a stop without giving everyone whiplash.
If the pedal is moving at a fast rate of speed, it stiffens high up like normal.
Your only option if you want that all the time is to replace the vacuum asist and master cylinder. Changing anything else on the brakes will not change how the pedal itself operates...
And you can out-brake an A4.
'05 A4
60-0mph 122.33'
'00 ES 300
60-0mph 121'
Hell the original '92 ES did 60-0 in around 122-125'. I forget where.
If the pedal is moving at a fast rate of speed, it stiffens high up like normal.
Your only option if you want that all the time is to replace the vacuum asist and master cylinder. Changing anything else on the brakes will not change how the pedal itself operates...
And you can out-brake an A4.
'05 A4
60-0mph 122.33'
'00 ES 300
60-0mph 121'
Hell the original '92 ES did 60-0 in around 122-125'. I forget where.
12-27-06, 06:47 PM
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Yup. Just easier to drive day to day. The thing about it, is to realize that if the pedal is moving in a quick motion (Quick is speed, it does not equal force like shoving it hard) it will go from soft to firm.
12-30-06, 09:23 AM
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The best way to improve your brakes would be to get a set of cross drilled rotors. NOT SLOTTED since they are for racing and eat up brakes. you can find them on ebay for not too much