Matsui

Yeah, IMO, the only thing going for 02> is the interior. I don't like the shape at all. I've driven them though and they were super quiet and fun to drive.
More than likely, I'll stick with 00-01

Matsui

Also, let's say the dealer wants 12k for an 00. In general, how much room is there to bargain? What would be the lowest they can go without hurting themselves?

Matsui

I just came accross a very nice '99 ES for a very attractive price. Although I was looking for an 00-01 because of some minor cosmetic changes. I think the only thing that will bug me if I get this one are the amber tail lights. How easy would it be to swap them with red/clears. I'm sure the dealer sells it, but it may be a bit expensive. Are there any other alternative solutions out there?

LXMN

You could do the tail light swap and wood grain steering wheel swap for less than $1000. The front bumper is optional as they don't look that different from an 00-01.

Factor that into your purchase price and see if it is worth the buy.

Matsui

LXMN - your headlights look awesome...VERY nicely done.
I think I'll just want to do the tails and not the steering. So what do you think that will cost me? I searched ebay but didn't come accross any red/clears. Is dealer the only option?