n2cars

I'm new to the forum and have been searching for info on changing the timing belt. My 2000 ES300 has 93k trouble-free miles so it's time for a timing belt change. I can't find a thread on this topic but I'm new and haven't yet found or mastered the archives. I've changed timing belts on a couple of Hondas and it was a fairly simple process. Has anyone done this on a 2000 or similar ES300?

Thanks for your help and I look forward to being a part of the forum.

2000 ES300 Diamond White Pearl
2007 ES350 Starfire Pearl
2001 Chevy Suburban - lifted, locked, and geared

92ES5sp

What Honda motors? 4 cylinders? The hardest part is lining up the rear cam. You should change the cam/crank seals and check the idler and tensioner pulleys too, because sometimes they can get noisy after a t-belt replacement. I mean if you know what your doing its not that hard. I gotta do mine again pretty soon.

n2cars

yes, 4 cyl Hondas. You're right. My first attempt ended with the cam gear being one tooth off. I learned my lesson and paid attention the second time. Are there any special tools needed for the ES? I assume you change the water pump at the same time.

Thanks.

JSM1284

REMOVAL


REMOVE RH FRONT WHEEL
REMOVE RH FENDER APRON SEAL
REMOVE GENERATOR DRIVE BELT




REMOVE PS PUMP DRIVE BELT Loosen the 2 bolts, and remove the drive belt.
DISCONNECT ENGINE COOLANT RESERVOIR HOSE FROM WATER OUTLET
DISCONNECT GROUND STRAP CONNECTORS
REMOVE ENGINE MOVING CONTROL ROD AND NO.2 RH ENGINE MOUNTING BRACKET

REMOVE NO.2 GENERATOR BRACKET
Loosen the generator pivot bolt
Remove the nut and bracket.
REMOVE CRANKSHAFT PULLEY

Using SST, remove the pulley bolt. SST 09213-54015 (91651-60855), 09330-00021

Using SST, remove the pulley

REMOVE NO.1 TIMING BELT COVER Remove the 4 bolts and timing belt cover.
REMOVE TIMING BELT GUIDE

REMOVE NO.2 TIMING BELT COVER
Disconnect the engine wire protector clamps from the No.3 timing belt cover.
Remove the 5 bolts and timing belt cover.

REMOVE RH ENGINE MOUNTING BRACKET Remove the 2 bolts, nut and mounting bracket.
SET NO.1 CYLINDER TO TDC/COMPRESSION
Temporarily install the crankshaft pulley bolt to the crankshaft.

Turn the crankshaft, and align the timing marks of the crankshaft timing pulley and oil pump body. NOTICE: Always turn the crankshaft clockwise.

Check that timing marks of the camshaft timing pulleys and No.3 timing belt cover are aligned. If not, turn the crankshaft1 revolution (360°) .
Remove the crankshaft pulley bolt.

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IF REUSING TIMING BELT, CHECK INSTALLATION MARKS ON TIMING BELT Check that there are 3 installation marks and front mark on the timing belt. If the installation and front marks have disappeared, before removing the timing belt, place 3 new installation marks on the timing belt to match the timing marks of the timing pulleys, and place a new front mark on the timing belt.

REMOVE TIMING BELT TENSIONER Alternately loosen the 2 bolts, and remove them, the tensioner and dust boot.
REMOVE TIMING BELT
REMOVE CAMSHAFT TIMING PULLEYS

Using SST, remove the bolt and RH timing pulley

Using SST, remove the LH timing pulley

REMOVE NO.2 IDLER PULLEY Remove the bolt and idler pulley.

REMOVE NO.1 IDLER PULLEY Using a 10 mm hexagon wrench, remove the bolt, idler pulley and plate washer

REMOVE CRANKSHAFT TIMING PULLEY
Remove the bolt and timing belt plate.
Using SST, remove the crankshaft timing pulley. SST 09950-50012 (09951-05010, 09952-05010, 09953-05010, 09953-05020, 09954-05010) NOTICE: Do not scratch the sensor part of the crankshaft timing pulley.

INSPECT TIMING BELT NOTICE:
Do not bend, twist or turn the timing belt inside out.
Do not allow the timing belt to come into contact with oil, water or steam.
Do not utilize timing belt tension when installing or removing the mount bolt of the camshaft timing pulley.
If there are any defects, as shown in the illustrations, check these points:


Premature parting
Check for proper installation.
Check the timing cover gasket for damage and proper installation.
If the belt teeth are cracked or damaged, check to see if either camshaft is locked.
If there is noticeable wear or cracks on the belt face, check to see if there are nicks on the side of the idler pulley lock and water pump.
If there is wear or damage on only one side of the belt, check the belt guide and the alignment of each pulley.
If there is noticeable wear on the belt teeth, check timing cover for damage and check gasket has been installed correctly and for foreign material on the pulley teeth. If necessary, replace the timing belt.
INSPECT IDLER PULLEYS

Visually check the seal portion of the idler pulley for oil leakage. If leakage is found, replace the idler pulley
Check that the idler pulley turns smoothly. If necessary, replace the idler pulley.
INSPECT TIMING BELT TENSIONER

Visually check the seal portion of the tensioner for oil leakage. HINT: If there is only the faintest trace of oil on the seal on the pushrod side, the tensioner is all right. If leakage is found, replace the tensioner.

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Hold the tensioner with both hands and push the push rod strongly as shown to check that it doesn't move. If the push rod moves, replace the tensioner. NOTICE: Never hold the tensioner push rod facing downward.

Measure the protrusion of the push rod from the housing end. Protrusion: 10.0 - 10.8 mm (0.394 - 0.425 inch) If the protrusion is not as specified, replace the tensioner.

INSTALLATION


INSTALL CRANKSHAFT TIMING PULLEY
Align the pulley set key with the key groove of the timing pulley, and slide on the timing pulley.
Install the timing pulley, facing the sensor side inward. NOTICE: Do not scratch the sensor part of the crankshaft timing pulley.
Install the timing belt plate with the bolt. Torque: 8 Nm (80 kgf-cm, 69 inch lbs.)

INSTALL NO.1 IDLER PULLEY Adhesive: Part No. 08836-00080, THREE BOND 1344, LOCTITE 242 or equivalent
Using a 10 mm hexagon wrench, install the plate washer and idler pulley with the pivot bolt. Torque: 34 Nm (350 kgf-cm, 25 ft. lbs.)
Check that the pulley bracket moves smoothly.

INSTALL NO.2 IDLER PULLEY
Install the idler pulley with the bolt. Torque: 43 Nm (440 kgf-cm, 32 ft. lbs.)
Check that the idler pulley moves smoothly.

INSTALL RH CAMSHAFT TIMING PULLEY
Face the flange side of the timing pulley outward.
Align the knock pin on the camshaft with the knock pin groove of the timing pulley, and slide on the timing pulley.
Using SST, install the pulley bolt. SST 09249-63010, 09960-10010 (09962-01000, 09963-01000) Torque: 88 Nm (900 kgf-cm, 65 ft. lbs.) HINT: Use a torque wrench with a fulcrum length of 340 mm (13.39 inch) .

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INSTALL LH CAMSHAFT TIMING PULLEY
Face the flange side of the timing pulley inward.
Align the knock pin on the camshaft with the knock pin groove of the timing pulley, and slide on the timing pulley.
Using SST, install the pulley bolt. SST 09960-10010 (09962-01000, 09963-01000) Torque: 125 Nm (1,300 kgf-cm, 94 ft. lbs.)
SET NO.1 CYLINDER TO TDC/COMPRESSION

Crankshaft Timing Pulley Position:
Temporarily install the crankshaft pulley bolt to the crankshaft.
Turn the crankshaft, and align the timing marks of the crankshaft timing pulley and oil pump body

Camshaft Timing Pulley Positions: Using SST, turn the camshaft pulley, align the timing marks of the timing pulley and No.3 timing belt cover.

INSTALL TIMING BELT NOTICE: The engine should be cold.
Remove any oil or water on the pulleys, and keep them clean. NOTICE: Only wipe the pulleys; do not use any cleansing agent.
Face the front mark on the timing belt forward.
Align the installation mark on the timing belt with the timing mark of the crankshaft timing pulley.
Align the installation marks on the timing belt with the timing marks of the camshaft timing pulleys.
Install the timing belt in this order: 1st: Crankshaft timing pulley 2nd: Water pump pulley 3rd: LH camshaft timing pulley 4th: No.2 idler pulley 5th: RH camshaft timing pulley 6th: No.1 idler pulley
SET TIMING BELT TENSIONER
Using a press, slowly press in the push rod using 981 - 9,807 N (100 - 1,000 kgf, 200 - 2,205 lbs.) of pressure.
Align the holes of the push rod and housing, pass a 1.27 mm hexagon wrench through the holes to keep the setting position of the push rod.


Install the dust boot to the tensioner.

INSTALL TIMING BELT TENSIONER
Temporarily install the tensioner with the 2 bolts.
Alternately tighten the 2 bolts. Torque: 27 Nm (280 kgf-cm, 20 ft. lbs.)
Remove the 1.27 mm hexagon wrench from the tensioner
CHECK VALVE TIMING

Slowly turn the crankshaft 2 revolutions , and align the timing marks of the crankshaft timing pulley and oil pump body. NOTICE: Always turn the crankshaft clockwise.

Check that the timing marks of the RH and LH timing pulleys with the timing marks of the No.3 timing belt cover as shown in the illustration. If the marks do not align, remove the timing belt and reinstall it.
Remove the crankshaft pulley bolt.
INSTALL RH ENGINE MOUNTING BRACKET Torque: 28 Nm (290 kgf-cm, 21 ft. lbs.)
INSTALL NO.2 TIMING BELT COVER
Check that the timing belt cover gasket has no cracks or peeling, etc. If the gasket has cracks or peeling, etc., replace it using these steps:
Using a screwdriver and gasket scraper, remove all the old gasket material.
Thoroughly clean all components to remove all the loose material.
Remove the backing paper from a new gasket and install the gasket evenly to the part of the timing belt cover shaded black in the illustration.
After installing the gasket, press down on it so that the adhesive firmly sticks to the timing belt cover.
Install the timing belt cover with the 5 bolts. Torque: 8.5 Nm (85 kgf-cm, 74 inch lbs.)
Install the engine wire protector clamps to the No.3 timing belt cover.

INSTALL NO.1 TIMING BELT COVER
Check that the timing belt cover gaskets have cracks or peeling, etc. If the gasket has cracks or peeling, etc., replace it using these steps:
Using a screwdriver and gasket scraper, remove all the old gasket material.
Thoroughly clean all components to remove all the loose material.
Remove the backing paper from a new gasket and install the gasket evenly to the part of the timing belt cover shaded black in the illustration.
NOTICE: When joining 2 gaskets, do not leave a gap between them. Cut off any excess gasket.



After installing the gasket, press down on it so that the adhesive firmly sticks to the timing belt cover.
Install the timing belt cover with the 4 bolts. Torque: 8.5 Nm (85 kgf-cm, 74 inch lbs.)
INSTALL CRANKSHAFT PULLEY
Align the pulley set key with the key groove of the pulley, and slide on the pulley.
Using SST, install the pulley bolt. SST 09213-54015 (91651-60855), 09330-00021 Torque: 215 Nm (2,200 kgf-cm, 159 ft. lbs.)

INSTALL NO.2 GENERATOR BRACKET Install the generator bracket with the pivot bolt and nut. Do not tighten the bolt yet. Torque: (Nut): 28 Nm (290 kgf-cm, 21 ft. lbs.)
INSTALL NO.2 RH ENGINE MOUNTING BRACKET AND ENGINE MOVING CONTROL ROD
CONNECT GROUND STRAP
CONNECTORS CONNECT ENGINE COOLANT RESERVOIR HOSE TO WATER OUTLET
INSTALL PS PUMP DRIVE BELT
INSTALL GENERATOR DRIVE BELT
INSTALL RH FENDER APRON SEAL
INSTALL RH FRONT WHEEL
VEHICLE ROAD TEST Check for abnormal noise, shock, slippage, correct shift points and smoothly operation

n2cars

JSM1284,

Thanks for the excellent response. It looks like a tedious and time-consuming job, (more so than the belts I've changed in the past) but one that can be done in a garage by someone with a free weekend.

I'll let you know how it goes. Thanks again.

JSM1284

Book calls for 2.8 hours.

n2cars

Hmm. I was quoted $1200 by Lexus and $750 by an independent shop. At $80/hr, the labor on 2.8hrs would be about $225. Are the parts really >$500 or are the quotes too high?

JSM1284

Timing belt around $50. Water pump is about $100.

You should replace the pump when doing the belt.

Also, Some people replace all the idler pulleys and tensioner. Not neccessary, but it is good insurance.

Shops will always screw you over.

One more thing, Get the parts from the Toyota dealer as opposed to a Lexus dealer. Same parts but are cheaper at Toyota.

Timing Belt Part# 1356809080
Water Pump Part# 1610029085

92ES5sp

Where did that labor time come from? At my shop a t-belt on a 5S-FE camry pays 3.4, without the w/p.

JSM1284

A 5S-FE is not a 1MZ-FE. Labor times are from Alldata.

92ES5sp

Im aware of that thanks for the info.

onepointon

hm, we get 5.0 labor to do the these.

if your waterpump is not leaking, its not completely necessary to replace it now. it is more work to take off the cam gears/cam gear backing plate. same with the cam/crank seals. the seals are actually kind of a pita, especially the rear cam. it is good insurance, but if they arent leaking/making noise, i wouldnt worry about it.

the motor is valve safe, just fyi. so if you get it a few off, no biggie. the nice thing about the factory belts is that they are marked for the cam gears and crank gear. its hard to mess it up.

good luck. its really not that bad.