Aim down HID's on a '95ES?
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I didn't realize you guys get butt hurt when I bashed on your cheap DDM lights.. I say it's garbage because the hid quality is the same as a regular halogen bulb! But hey, everyone has there opinion on the brand, so whatever. And the hid kits I buy are actually German engineered made, same company that makes hids for Audi, Mercedes, BMW, etc. So don't try bashing on me. Like I tell everyone, don't half *** on your cars and buy cheap **** and just do everything the right way!
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No, everyone is entitled to thier opinion, BUT, if it's a car part, a brand, a seller, etc, you need "proof".
If I come on here and say your ripping people off, that's my opinion. So I;m entitled to say that WITHOUT proof, right? Thats all we're saying. When stuff like that gets posted, a thread just turns into a ****show unfortunatly
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I didn't realize you guys get butt hurt when I bashed on your cheap DDM lights.. I say it's garbage because the hid quality is the same as a regular halogen bulb! But hey, everyone has there opinion on the brand, so whatever. And the hid kits I buy are actually German engineered made, same company that makes hids for Audi, Mercedes, BMW, etc. So don't try bashing on me. Like I tell everyone, don't half *** on your cars and buy cheap **** and just do everything the right way!
But they're 47$ cheaper than yours, so they can't surely be good, right?
Please post what 'brand' you're using - just out of curiosity.
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I pay $50-60 shipped for the kits I purchase. Let me get a link...
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Just backing away from the aggro for a moment.... here in Aussie and in the UK, it is illegal to convert halogens to HID's because of the dazzle caused by the conversion to oncoming drivers. Potential risk here is driving an unroadworthy (and, more importantly, one that is hazardous to other road users) vehicle.
I came upon an article (from memory from the US and sourced via Google) that explained that part of the road-authority issue was that in halogen lamps the most intense part of the light eminated from the middle of the filament, whereas the most intense part in a HID was at the edge of the arc (viz nearest the electrodes) and this difference needed to be designed into the reflector and lens design to ensure the light spread is appropriate for road use. Not sure of the relevance of this point as my recollection of halogen lamps is that the filament is aligned front to back, not side to side. My recollection could be faulty here tho.
Another potential issue with HID's is the high voltage used to create the arc (arond 25kV) so make sure that you have adequate protection/isolation between the HID ballasts and the rest of the car electrics.
The final thing that makes me worry about the whole issue is that OE HID's are really expensive options (typically multiple hundred dollars) and yet the after-market kits are well under this - surely there is more to this price disparity than just price-gouging by the car companies.
I was all set to order HID's for my '97 ES but on balance decided that the upside was not worth the potential downsides.
Anway, food for thought.
Peter.
I came upon an article (from memory from the US and sourced via Google) that explained that part of the road-authority issue was that in halogen lamps the most intense part of the light eminated from the middle of the filament, whereas the most intense part in a HID was at the edge of the arc (viz nearest the electrodes) and this difference needed to be designed into the reflector and lens design to ensure the light spread is appropriate for road use. Not sure of the relevance of this point as my recollection of halogen lamps is that the filament is aligned front to back, not side to side. My recollection could be faulty here tho.
Another potential issue with HID's is the high voltage used to create the arc (arond 25kV) so make sure that you have adequate protection/isolation between the HID ballasts and the rest of the car electrics.
The final thing that makes me worry about the whole issue is that OE HID's are really expensive options (typically multiple hundred dollars) and yet the after-market kits are well under this - surely there is more to this price disparity than just price-gouging by the car companies.
I was all set to order HID's for my '97 ES but on balance decided that the upside was not worth the potential downsides.
Anway, food for thought.
Peter.
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