First mod...
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First mod...
Newbie alert! I know I should use the SEARCH function but I wanted to get my first post on the board. My wife and I just took her father's ES300 (80k miles) off of his hands. I cleaned it up a bit (a work in progress). I seriously don't think he had washed in in the last 7 years. Took me 2 hours just to remove the road tar from the lower side panels. Just wondering what the first performance mod should be? Suggestions?
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meh, intakes bother me...IMO..if your getting more air than stock, unless you upgrade your feul pump, injectors...whats the use of having more air? and ya ya..I know "oh the computer will make air fuel mixture adjustments"...but that means the car isnt running right. Why wouldnt lexus just slap on a performance intake? Also, if you upgrade the intake, then you still have a very restrictive exhaust system...headers, cat, muffler, stock piping...whats the use of slammin more air in when you cant get more out? I say dont mess with just doing one thing, unless your going to continue to add more later. This is mainly the reason why I havent modifyed my car yet... I know that upgrading just the intake is going to give you a TINY performance boost, somthing like 1 or 2 hp...but caman, unless your at the track trying to lower your time by a 10th of a second I dont see how it makes a difference...
just a random rant IMO...
just a random rant IMO...
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Originally posted by blux
meh, intakes bother me...IMO..if your getting more air than stock, unless you upgrade your feul pump, injectors...whats the use of having more air? and ya ya..I know "oh the computer will make air fuel mixture adjustments"...but that means the car isnt running right. Why wouldnt lexus just slap on a performance intake? Also, if you upgrade the intake, then you still have a very restrictive exhaust system...headers, cat, muffler, stock piping...whats the use of slammin more air in when you cant get more out? I say dont mess with just doing one thing, unless your going to continue to add more later. This is mainly the reason why I havent modifyed my car yet... I know that upgrading just the intake is going to give you a TINY performance boost, somthing like 1 or 2 hp...but caman, unless your at the track trying to lower your time by a 10th of a second I dont see how it makes a difference...
just a random rant IMO...
meh, intakes bother me...IMO..if your getting more air than stock, unless you upgrade your feul pump, injectors...whats the use of having more air? and ya ya..I know "oh the computer will make air fuel mixture adjustments"...but that means the car isnt running right. Why wouldnt lexus just slap on a performance intake? Also, if you upgrade the intake, then you still have a very restrictive exhaust system...headers, cat, muffler, stock piping...whats the use of slammin more air in when you cant get more out? I say dont mess with just doing one thing, unless your going to continue to add more later. This is mainly the reason why I havent modifyed my car yet... I know that upgrading just the intake is going to give you a TINY performance boost, somthing like 1 or 2 hp...but caman, unless your at the track trying to lower your time by a 10th of a second I dont see how it makes a difference...
just a random rant IMO...
Who makes a good CAI for this car???
Last edited by Seattle ES300; 09-12-02 at 11:56 PM.
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My 98 Es became a whole lot more fun to drive, and yes sounded quite a bit louder, when I added my Weapon-R dragon filter. That's all I really care about. It is a noticable change, and perhaps it feels like more boost than it is, but I have to think that just taking out the airbox that slows down the incoming air would help you quite a bit. As others said, that is in there for quiting the engine noise, at the tradeoff of less-than-optimal performance.
I highly recommend the Weapon-R dragon for the ES...there's not too many others who make CAIs for us. I also got the ram air and heat shield upgrade, and that also improved performance noticably, as well as mellowing out the sound a little...like from a roar to a growl, still very nice.
Just because our cars aren't made to be performance sports cars doesn't mean there's anything wrong with making them perform better. I am also planning on numerous future mods, but if I was going to change only one thing on my car, for the money, I think its hard to beat the difference a CAI makes in how the car feels when you drive it.
There's my .02.
bR
I highly recommend the Weapon-R dragon for the ES...there's not too many others who make CAIs for us. I also got the ram air and heat shield upgrade, and that also improved performance noticably, as well as mellowing out the sound a little...like from a roar to a growl, still very nice.
Just because our cars aren't made to be performance sports cars doesn't mean there's anything wrong with making them perform better. I am also planning on numerous future mods, but if I was going to change only one thing on my car, for the money, I think its hard to beat the difference a CAI makes in how the car feels when you drive it.
There's my .02.
bR
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haha..ranting is fun =)
your right about that CAI thing, adding a k&n to your stock intake isnt going to do much, but if you upgrade the intake, then your talking. did you upgrade the exhaust on your CL? I saw the pix at your site, it looks pretty sweet. mad props!
edit: I was under the impression that you guys were adding a cone filter to the stock intake manifold and calling it a performance upgrade. I guess some do. althought it doesnt do much but make a louder noise. You guys have a good point about that noise issue and lexus....
your right about that CAI thing, adding a k&n to your stock intake isnt going to do much, but if you upgrade the intake, then your talking. did you upgrade the exhaust on your CL? I saw the pix at your site, it looks pretty sweet. mad props!
edit: I was under the impression that you guys were adding a cone filter to the stock intake manifold and calling it a performance upgrade. I guess some do. althought it doesnt do much but make a louder noise. You guys have a good point about that noise issue and lexus....
Last edited by blux; 09-13-02 at 05:42 PM.
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Originally posted by blux
haha..ranting is fun =)
did you upgrade the exhaust on your CL? I saw the pix at your site, it looks pretty sweet. mad props!
haha..ranting is fun =)
did you upgrade the exhaust on your CL? I saw the pix at your site, it looks pretty sweet. mad props!
I'm having so much fun with fixin' up this ES! It really was in quite bad shape. I think I added 10hp just washing the thing when I got it. All that dirt just caused drag...
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Uh.....Intake in ES300
I won't say that install an intake is so call THE " noise" , I would call the " sound "... I have an Injen intake in my car with cat-back exhaust ( N-1 ) It really sounds nice.