ES - 1st to 4th Gen (1990-2006) Forum for all 1990 - 2006 ES300 and ES330 models. ES250 topics go here as well.

Cylinder 3 misfire ? Already checked the coil packs and nothing. Suggestions ? 1997es

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 08-13-14, 09:30 AM
  #1  
imAC
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
imAC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Cylinder 3 misfire ? Already checked the coil packs and nothing. Suggestions ? 1997es

Hey everyone. I am having a very difficult time finding out the culprit to my problem. I have a 1997 es300 and cylinder 3 is misfiring. I did what others had suggested before (swap the coil pack around to a different cylinder to see if the misfire moves....and....its still misfires on cylinder 3). i changed my spark plugs maybe 6-8 months ago but i did NOT change the wires. Could it be the wire going to bank 3 ? Any help would be AWESOME !

Also, when slowing down for a stop sign or red light....when I gas it....it will sometimes make an awful loud backfire noise. I have neighbors thinking I am shooting a gun lol.
Old 08-13-14, 01:25 PM
  #2  
lostape45
Advanced
 
lostape45's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: OH
Posts: 500
Received 30 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

Is that the only CEL your car is throwing? Just for cylinder 3? Is the CEL flashing or just lit on the dash?
Old 08-13-14, 02:03 PM
  #3  
Hayk
Lead Lap
iTrader: (1)
 
Hayk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,105
Received 294 Likes on 232 Posts
Default

Pull the spark plug and inspect. Your fuel injector is probably bad.
Old 08-16-14, 08:46 AM
  #4  
imAC
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
imAC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Ohh and also my car shakes very violently even when I'm parked. Still could be a fuel injector ?
Old 08-16-14, 08:46 AM
  #5  
imAC
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
imAC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

The cel is sometimes solid but other times its not and it flashes
Old 08-16-14, 12:27 PM
  #6  
ES300NZ
Lead Lap
 
ES300NZ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: New Zealand
Posts: 662
Received 33 Likes on 30 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by imAC
Ohh and also my car shakes very violently even when I'm parked. Still could be a fuel injector ?
all engines that are mis-firing shake, some more violently than others. this is because of say 6 cylinders only 5 are working or 4, so the engine is 'out of balance' as it rotates, it's missing the 'push' force of those cylinders which are not firing (e.g. mis or failed to fire).

in a nut shell. yes.
Old 08-17-14, 07:42 AM
  #7  
Hayk
Lead Lap
iTrader: (1)
 
Hayk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,105
Received 294 Likes on 232 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by imAC
The cel is sometimes solid but other times its not and it flashes
Flashing is worse as it means you're dumping unburned fuel. Get it resolved ASAP.

Do you smell a strong fuel odor when it's doing that?
Old 08-18-14, 08:56 AM
  #8  
imAC
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
imAC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

I am just a college student and do not have much $$ to spare. Is it possible to unclog a fuel injector or do I just need to replace it ?

Is there a way to test fuel injectors ?
Old 08-18-14, 10:42 AM
  #9  
Hayk
Lead Lap
iTrader: (1)
 
Hayk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,105
Received 294 Likes on 232 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by imAC
I am just a college student and do not have much $$ to spare. Is it possible to unclog a fuel injector or do I just need to replace it ? Is there a way to test fuel injectors ?
It sounds to me like it could be a spark plug that's not firing or a fuel injector that's stuck open. Both will cause a misfire. Swapping the coils will not guarantee that you're getting spark.

There is a test you can do to check for spark, before you attack the fuel injector.

Just so we're on the same page, which cylinder do you think is #3?
Old 08-19-14, 08:51 AM
  #10  
imAC
Driver School Candidate
Thread Starter
 
imAC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 49
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by MrBooby
It sounds to me like it could be a spark plug that's not firing or a fuel injector that's stuck open. Both will cause a misfire. Swapping the coils will not guarantee that you're getting spark.

There is a test you can do to check for spark, before you attack the fuel injector.

Just so we're on the same page, which cylinder do you think is #3?
I was thinking the back side middle one....I hope that's correct haha.
Old 08-19-14, 04:04 PM
  #11  
Hayk
Lead Lap
iTrader: (1)
 
Hayk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,105
Received 294 Likes on 232 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by imAC
I was thinking the back side middle one....I hope that's correct haha.
Okay. Try swapping the spark plug wires for #3 and #5 and see if the misfire moves. Also check for obvious damage to the wire.

Then if it's the same, remove the spark plug out of cylinder #3 and inspect it. If it's good, lay it on top of the engine while plugged into the wire. Have somebody crank the engine and watch for spark. DO NOT TOUCH the spark plug.

Lastly, what spark plugs did you put in the car?
Old 08-19-14, 04:06 PM
  #12  
Hayk
Lead Lap
iTrader: (1)
 
Hayk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: NJ
Posts: 4,105
Received 294 Likes on 232 Posts
Default

Cylinder #3 is under the plenum so make sure the wire is still securely attached to the spark plug. It could have easily popped off.
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Speedy0o
GS - 3rd Gen (2006-2011)
38
05-18-24 03:29 PM
Beto18
RX - 3rd Gen (2010-2015)
9
05-14-22 09:48 PM
JimboGo
IS - 2nd Gen (2006-2013)
5
04-26-18 06:12 AM
killerbyte
SC430 - 2nd Gen (2001-2010)
10
04-17-12 02:43 PM
mzeitlin
ES - 1st to 4th Gen (1990-2006)
8
02-07-08 10:18 AM



Quick Reply: Cylinder 3 misfire ? Already checked the coil packs and nothing. Suggestions ? 1997es



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 01:40 AM.