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MAF left unplugged, engine started now HORRIBLE rattling noise!!

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Old 06-26-15, 03:49 PM
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Unhappy MAF left unplugged, engine started now HORRIBLE rattling noise!!

Hi, I recently purchased a 2000 ES300, I like the car so far. I was trying to troubleshoot a p0171 code and in the process I thought it was the MAF sensor. So I unplugged it and engine ran rough so I turned it off and plugged it back in but now it makes this loud rattling noise! I disconnected the battery for hours took out the maf sensor and still nothing makes a loud rattling noise! Anyone else experience this? I have read people do this all the time with no problems.....
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Why would you disconnect it and run it? That wouldn't prove anything and only result would be a very rough running engine. Where does the rattling noise sound like its coming from? P0171 that I've dealt are almost always a clogged PCV or a faulty oxygen center. I've never replaced a single MAF so far while working, just sometimes they need to be cleaned. A cheap OBD II scanner could help you diagnosis the P0171 much better than just replacing parts.
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The only reason I disconnected it is because that's what others do to see if they notice a difference, everyone said it would not hurt the engine. The noise sounds like its coming from inside the engine somewhere. took off a valve cover but didn't see and damage
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I'm surprised it ran without the MAF connected at all, but I guess the ECU used a base map to compensate.

A rattle is a pretty hard noise to help someone over the internet with. You really need to record the sound in a video, at least 2-3 minutes long, and at various rpms. Load that to youtube, embed the video here, you'll get some helpful advice that way.

you rev'd it didn't you ... I bet you did. ... *sigh* conrod knock, caused by lean out + a cooked a/f or o2 sensor.

there was good oil in the engine right ?

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Originally Posted by ES300NZ
I'm surprised it ran without the MAF connected at all, but I guess the ECU used a base map to compensate.

A rattle is a pretty hard noise to help someone over the internet with. You really need to record the sound in a video, at least 2-3 minutes long, and at various rpms. Load that to youtube, embed the video here, you'll get some helpful advice that way.

you rev'd it didn't you ... I bet you did. ... *sigh* conrod knock, caused by lean out + a cooked a/f or o2 sensor.

there was good oil in the engine right ?
Interesting guess, I wouldn't have considered it but it makes sense. Hopefully for his sake its not. That engine would be toast if so unless he did the rebuild himself. Cause the crank probably toast if the connecting rod went.

Wonder where you found the idea to disconnect the MAF...

I can't think of a single way for it to prove the MAF is bad. They typically only need cleaning and rarely ever fail.
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