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Which Air Fuel Ratio sensor or Oxygen sensor should I change?

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Old 07-09-17, 03:06 PM
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Default Which Air Fuel Ratio sensor or Oxygen sensor should I change?

Hello guys,

Ever since I bought my car (2003 ES300) it has been giving me really bad MPG, 10-14 AVG MPG City and 17-19 AVG MPG Highway. So, as I was fixing things here and there I didn't want to go there yet but the time has come and after some research, I will be changing spark plugs, Air Flow Sensor (already changed the air filter) and I also want to change the air fuel sensor or oxygen sensor in charge of that area of the vehicle. I looked but couldn't find a clear answer. Since you guys are the expert I would love for some help.

Here are the parts number for each Sensor. So Which one should I change? or should I change them all?

234-4261 Oxygen Sensor 234-4261 Oxygen Sensor
Position: Downstream Front

234-4064 Oxygen Sensor 234-4064 Oxygen Sensor
Position: Downstream Rear

234-9047 Air Fuel Ratio Sensor 234-9047 Air Fuel Ratio Sensor
Position: Upstream Rear

234-9042 Air Fuel Ratio Sensor 234-9042 Air Fuel Ratio Sensor
Position: Upstream Front

Edit: Year and model of the car

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Old 07-10-17, 01:09 AM
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1) What car do you have (hate to ask, such a fundamental question)?
2) What CEL codes were throne?

Asking the questions you are asking, it sounds CEL-driven.
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Originally Posted by Oro
1) What car do you have (hate to ask, such a fundamental question)?
2) What CEL codes were throne?

Asking the questions you are asking, it sounds CEL-driven.
My car is a 2003 ES 300. There is no code yet, I am changing it based on the suspicios that it might be the reason why its giving me such a low MPG, I am going to change the spark plugs first before I do any of that to start from there.
I am changing it based on what my mechanic told me and also based on things I've read in this forum during the past few days about the subject.
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There are other components that could lead to poor gas mileage. A mechanic who has diagnosed & CONFIRMED a part being faulty should be able to readily reference engine data such as fuel trims, AF/O2 volts& wave patterns, even ohm resistance figures against factory specs. Given the poor MPG you have, it requires a thorough review of these data points, soon.... If the fuel system is loading the engine with too much fuel, it will eventually destroy your catalytic converters.
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Guys I truly appreciate the help! But the problem is tht in every post about low MPG everyone suggest "Change O2 sensor" or "Change AF Sensor" even if its not throwing a code. I ask which codes and don't get the answers I'm looking for.

This may sound expensive in case they work fine, if changing these things don't help I will take it to the dealership. I just want to do some exploration of my own based on other's experiences in this very same forum.

Thanks again for your help!
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