Agreed on the doors.

They look just like the Camry XLE's...

And as for the photoshopped wood trim on the dash, thx guys for the comments, I wish I could produce such an Item but the closest I get to obtaining and cutting wood is making home repairs, lol. BTW, the wood piece that I used for that PS is the LS 430's dash trim for that very spot.

I really expect Lexus to put more wood in; ironically the wood trim issue style hearkens back to the original LS 400.

But there is still more wood than the 2ES, which just had the center console--that's it. But now the upper doors have gone to bare again. BTW, notice the (single) styling cue; the curve on the door flows

I wonder what it would have been like to stick the current 4ES interior inside the 5ES, with a stretch. Sometimes I think Toyota takes the efficiency/manufacturing angle too seriously (reducing # of parts with each model), maybe some of that effect came out in the 5ES.

Maybe the refresh will fix things...

 

Yep if C&D can accelerate from 0 to 60mph in 6 seconds flat in the Avalon, which is just as heavy as the new ES but with one less gear, I don't see why the new ES can't achieve the same if not better..

 

Yeah, I was about to say that too. 21/30 is really disappointing considering even the Avalon, with one less gear, is getting 22/31.

Wonder where the drop comes from.

 

Six seconds flat would be great, right in the range or better than Maxima, TL, G35, C-Class, and 3 series. That alone makes this car worth it to me, now only if it were RWD. Hopefully the next rendition is RWD.

 

weight distribution is 61/39 ? I knew FWD cars were front heavy, but isn't that sort of extreme?

 

Number of gears doesn't affect 0-60 time, it's the gearing ratio of the lower gears that matters.

TRD, you could get rear side airbags in the E46 BMW, as well as, I believe, the B6 A4. I'm sure there were others as well. It's not a first-in-class thing, unless you don't consider those to be in the same class and you're putting the ES in a class by itself...

I'm not a fan of wood in cars. Wood belongs on trees and pianos. However, given that Lexus put some wood in this car, I would have wanted more appropriate utilization. None on the rear doors and none on the front passenger side gives it a horribly cheap look compared to its usage elsewhere in the car. Also, I'm so not feeling the round top of the center stack. And the extensive wood paneling by the gear shifter makes the top of the center stack and the front passenger dash look even more disproportionately wood-less.

Otherwise, I like how exterior styling is evolutionary from the 4ES, although it may be a bit TOO evolutionary. The profile looks almost exactly the same. I'm glad to see the grilles are finally starting to have a Lexus-family look to them, but the tails aren't different enough from the IS/GS tails. I do, however, like the clean rear door lines. Compared to the strangely complex cuts and creases on the 2IS's, this is a gajillion times better looking.

Overall, from these pics alone, I give the 5ES 2.5/5 stars. That's compared to 2.5/5 stars for the 4ES...

 

I don't think they can ever make it RWD. What would be the point of the GS, then?

 

ES is not for people who care about performance, nor enthusiasts. Its just a good reliable car, with enough power to get on the highway with ease and get all of the luxuries of a more expensive car. This car is basically aimed at people who want a luxury car but cant or dont appreciate a driving machine. It also makes a great daily driver for those of us who dont want our "driving machine" to get to dirty

 

Also a good luxury car for those of us who don't want to shout out that we have money.....and if it does get dirty just head to the dealer cause' they'll wash it for free.

 

About the door, the dark gray top is taken from the RX400h, as my car has that. I didnt notice this until then. The doors look EXTREMELY cheap. Where is the wood?

Mink92890

 

Great job! Lexus should take note for the interior refreshening 3 years from now.

 

I think there is wood trim on the door armrest, just not as prominent as those on the door panels of the current one.

 

I dunno, I think if it were RWD and priced the same, GS sales would fall through the floor. We're talking a $15k difference, added "performance" or not.

 

That cuts through crystal clear to what's off, to some degree. For true perfection they would balance it out.

I thought too that the more 'severe' dash would be reserved for the GS/IS...even Camry. Plus to match the LS 460 the wood trimmings should be similar...no?

It seems that the ES 330 cabin accoutrements cannot be beaten yet. This car is good, it's got all the Lexus features one expects, plus a few more. Design wise I have to see it to be sure.

 

Where and what is the Ultra Luxury Package that everyone was talking about?

Mink92890