Event Data Recorder
08-21-06, 11:44 AM
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Event Data Recorder
Is our car equipped with this "technology"? I've been reading about it today and did not realize how many cars have it. I never checked the owner's manual, where they are supposed to disclose that it's in the car. I'm far from a privacy advocate, but would certainly be opposed to the unit being in my car.
08-21-06, 11:56 AM
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Is this supposed to be like a "black box"? Do you have a link describing this technology? Off top of my head, and because I'm an engineer designing optical telecom transmission circuits (yeah, a mouthful 
), we often use this concept to track "working history" of the devices which can come handy if something breaks and needs to be troubleshooted. So, I would really like to know exactly how does this gets implemented in autos. Maybe keeping track of gasoline we use, top/average speed, acceleration, driving intervals, etc.?
), we often use this concept to track "working history" of the devices which can come handy if something breaks and needs to be troubleshooted. So, I would really like to know exactly how does this gets implemented in autos. Maybe keeping track of gasoline we use, top/average speed, acceleration, driving intervals, etc.?
08-21-06, 12:02 PM
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try this link:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/08/21/...ule/index.html
These have been in certain Toyota/Lexus models since 2005 (or even before - I just know my 05 has it). And yes... it should be in your manual if your car is equiped with the device.
http://www.cnn.com/2006/AUTOS/08/21/...ule/index.html
These have been in certain Toyota/Lexus models since 2005 (or even before - I just know my 05 has it). And yes... it should be in your manual if your car is equiped with the device.
08-21-06, 12:11 PM
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Google is your friend, Twister!
They are marketed to be a resource to determine fault in accidents. There are more troublesome capabilities, however, such as catching people speeding!
I've heard rumors that in some states the data is not released unless a warrant is issued. What worries me is that these things have very quietly made their way into cars and who knows what they are really using them for...
They are marketed to be a resource to determine fault in accidents. There are more troublesome capabilities, however, such as catching people speeding!
I've heard rumors that in some states the data is not released unless a warrant is issued. What worries me is that these things have very quietly made their way into cars and who knows what they are really using them for...
08-22-06, 05:07 PM
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EDRs were originally intended for manufacturers to collect real life data about a crash so that they can analyse and see whether the car performed as they expected. It records vehicle speed, brake pressure, accelerator angle, seatbelt usage and airbag deployment. I'm not sure if they check if the lights are on or not.
This information then caught the eyes of juries and such and that they can use the information to convict or defend someone in court.
If there is one installed in your vehicle, it will be mentioned in the beginning of the owner's manual. At least, that's where my disclaimer is on the Prius.
This information then caught the eyes of juries and such and that they can use the information to convict or defend someone in court.
If there is one installed in your vehicle, it will be mentioned in the beginning of the owner's manual. At least, that's where my disclaimer is on the Prius.
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08-22-06, 08:20 PM
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I used to do forensic investigations that sometimes ended up in court. I'm all for this info being recorded and used whenever there's an accident, or even a disputed citation. There's nothing like a black box for giving an objective view of the truth. It can save your butt if you're wrongfully charged with causing an accident and it can nail it if you're guilty.
The fear, of course, is that your insurance company will somehow get ahold of it and change your rates accordingly. The other fear is that GPS tracking will be able to trace you to that shady rendezvous...
At this point this isn't legally possible, so no worries now. But in the future, who knows....
The fear, of course, is that your insurance company will somehow get ahold of it and change your rates accordingly. The other fear is that GPS tracking will be able to trace you to that shady rendezvous...
At this point this isn't legally possible, so no worries now. But in the future, who knows....
08-23-06, 07:36 AM
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08-23-06, 08:06 AM
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If you are insured with many insurance companies, they are writing in the small print that you give them permission to inspect the on board recorder, in the event of an accident, if the auto is so equipped. This wavers any concerns about privacy.
Privacy is not a right... It's a privilege
Privacy is not a right... It's a privilege
09-09-06, 04:51 PM
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the car IS loaded with a data recorder. This recorder can only be decoded by Lexus, and Lexus will only release the results to the owner of the car, except, of course by court order.
And yes, check your insurance contract, manys insurance companies include a clause that releases that access to them too.
And yes, check your insurance contract, manys insurance companies include a clause that releases that access to them too.
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