XM Radio Question
#17
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Thanks for the picture. The picture gives everyone a good idea of what the antenna looks like. They did a better job on yours than the one I saw (off to the side on the trunk). I agree painting it would even make it look better. Better yet, IMO, is the suggestion of attaching it to the back window.
Nyardich and MD350, even so you have ES vs me going to install Sirius on GS, can you tell me how did they snake the cable under the trunk? My installation place told me that its not a good idea to put antenna in that place on the trunk because every time you open the trunk a cable will be flexed. They want to install my on the rear right fender next to the trunk opening. I personally like the symmetric look in the middle at the end of the trunk where you have it, but have concerns regarding the cable flexing
#18
Satellite antenna has to be placed in open on a metal surface for a better reception. Otherwise, none of the installation places will guarantee their work and will charge you extra money to relocate the antenna later
Nyardich and MD350, even so you have ES vs me going to install Sirius on GS, can you tell me how did they snake the cable under the trunk? My installation place told me that its not a good idea to put antenna in that place on the trunk because every time you open the trunk a cable will be flexed. They want to install my on the rear right fender next to the trunk opening. I personally like the symmetric look in the middle at the end of the trunk where you have it, but have concerns regarding the cable flexing
Nyardich and MD350, even so you have ES vs me going to install Sirius on GS, can you tell me how did they snake the cable under the trunk? My installation place told me that its not a good idea to put antenna in that place on the trunk because every time you open the trunk a cable will be flexed. They want to install my on the rear right fender next to the trunk opening. I personally like the symmetric look in the middle at the end of the trunk where you have it, but have concerns regarding the cable flexing
As to the installation on the truck at the 3rd brake light, there is a wire that loops around under the trunk, and the wire is tucked under the trunk insulation. Between the insulation and the end of the trunk (on the inside), there is some kind of strip that covers the wire to avoid flexing. It holds it in place and does not allow it to flex.
I just went out and opened/closed the trunk a couple times and the wire did not move...so there is no flexing. There is a little slack between the strip and the insulation. But, it is tight between the antenna and the strip.
I guess it depends on the installer. But, it can be placed in the center and be done correctly. I wish I could post a picture of the inside of the trunk, but I am a little challenged in that area.
#19
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MD350,
Would you be so kind to take a picture of the antenna with a trunk closed, and a few others when trunk is open (from the side of a car and from the side of an open trunk)? I would like to print those shots and show it to the installer shop. Even low quality shots would be greately appreciated as a visual guide!!!
The problem in my case is that I would like to have a Sirius integrated with my audio system so I can control it from a touch screen. If I do it myself or go to any shop, it will void the warranty since I have to play around with wires. My dealership only does XM installation which is easy for them since GS's sharkfin antenna has XM integrated in it. For Sirius they have a contractor shop, and I just bring the car to my dealership, get a loaner while they work on it, and than get a full warranty from my dealership on it. Its hard to beat, except the guy who does installation is a jerk but he knows that I have no choice but to go with this shop. He actually called me being **** for asking him about where he is planning to put an antenna!?! Anyway, I'm also will be getting a remote start from them as well. Apparently it is possible to have a remote start with a push button start, just will get another remote with a close/open/start to use separately from our own fob.
Hardwiring x50 radar detector and cutting speed-sensor wire to enable bluetooth, mp3 folder and radio station msg viewing while driving is another mod which I'm planning to do on my own later
Would you be so kind to take a picture of the antenna with a trunk closed, and a few others when trunk is open (from the side of a car and from the side of an open trunk)? I would like to print those shots and show it to the installer shop. Even low quality shots would be greately appreciated as a visual guide!!!
The problem in my case is that I would like to have a Sirius integrated with my audio system so I can control it from a touch screen. If I do it myself or go to any shop, it will void the warranty since I have to play around with wires. My dealership only does XM installation which is easy for them since GS's sharkfin antenna has XM integrated in it. For Sirius they have a contractor shop, and I just bring the car to my dealership, get a loaner while they work on it, and than get a full warranty from my dealership on it. Its hard to beat, except the guy who does installation is a jerk but he knows that I have no choice but to go with this shop. He actually called me being **** for asking him about where he is planning to put an antenna!?! Anyway, I'm also will be getting a remote start from them as well. Apparently it is possible to have a remote start with a push button start, just will get another remote with a close/open/start to use separately from our own fob.
Hardwiring x50 radar detector and cutting speed-sensor wire to enable bluetooth, mp3 folder and radio station msg viewing while driving is another mod which I'm planning to do on my own later
#20
MD350,
Would you be so kind to take a picture of the antenna with a trunk closed, and a few others when trunk is open (from the side of a car and from the side of an open trunk)? I would like to print those shots and show it to the installer shop. Even low quality shots would be greately appreciated as a visual guide!!!
The problem in my case is that I would like to have a Sirius integrated with my audio system so I can control it from a touch screen. If I do it myself or go to any shop, it will void the warranty since I have to play around with wires. My dealership only does XM installation which is easy for them since GS's sharkfin antenna has XM integrated in it. For Sirius they have a contractor shop, and I just bring the car to my dealership, get a loaner while they work on it, and than get a full warranty from my dealership on it. Its hard to beat, except the guy who does installation is a jerk but he knows that I have no choice but to go with this shop. He actually called me being **** for asking him about where he is planning to put an antenna!?! Anyway, I'm also will be getting a remote start from them as well. Apparently it is possible to have a remote start with a push button start, just will get another remote with a close/open/start to use separately from our own fob.
Hardwiring x50 radar detector and cutting speed-sensor wire to enable bluetooth, mp3 folder and radio station msg viewing while driving is another mod which I'm planning to do on my own later
Would you be so kind to take a picture of the antenna with a trunk closed, and a few others when trunk is open (from the side of a car and from the side of an open trunk)? I would like to print those shots and show it to the installer shop. Even low quality shots would be greately appreciated as a visual guide!!!
The problem in my case is that I would like to have a Sirius integrated with my audio system so I can control it from a touch screen. If I do it myself or go to any shop, it will void the warranty since I have to play around with wires. My dealership only does XM installation which is easy for them since GS's sharkfin antenna has XM integrated in it. For Sirius they have a contractor shop, and I just bring the car to my dealership, get a loaner while they work on it, and than get a full warranty from my dealership on it. Its hard to beat, except the guy who does installation is a jerk but he knows that I have no choice but to go with this shop. He actually called me being **** for asking him about where he is planning to put an antenna!?! Anyway, I'm also will be getting a remote start from them as well. Apparently it is possible to have a remote start with a push button start, just will get another remote with a close/open/start to use separately from our own fob.
Hardwiring x50 radar detector and cutting speed-sensor wire to enable bluetooth, mp3 folder and radio station msg viewing while driving is another mod which I'm planning to do on my own later
#22
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Great pics!!! Just a quesiton, what am I looking at in the second one? Is this with a trunk open and you taking picture from inside? What is that plastic thing, to hold antenna in place or something? I assume the cable will wrap around and than antenna "bug" is around on the other side. Right? Thanks!!!
#23
Great pics!!! Just a quesiton, what am I looking at in the second one? Is this with a trunk open and you taking picture from inside? What is that plastic thing, to hold antenna in place or something? I assume the cable will wrap around and than antenna "bug" is around on the other side. Right? Thanks!!!
That plastic "bug" is what holds the wire in place and does not allow for it to flex. I went to go look at it again, and it is NOT wrapped around it from the outside. There is a hole on both sides and the wire goes through it. Don't know what is inside it that does not allow the wire to flex, but it works. It might be wrapped around on the inside. I don't want to take it apart, it may not stick back together again.
Hope this helps!
Last edited by MD350; 12-02-06 at 05:30 PM.
#24
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Yes, it definitely helps. Thanks!
I have been examining my trunk and I'm affraid in GS it will not be possible. You can absolutely place the antenna like you did and use that wire holder to keep it in place, but than it has to get somewhere from a trunk lid into the trunk and in a car. The only place where trunk lid connects to the car is hinges. THAT is the place where a cable going to be flexed everytime you open a trunk and with antenna going around hinges. Is that where you have it? When you place this antenna-bug on a side fender, antenna wire just will come out from the trunk around the fender. On a trunk lid it has to hang in the air. I'm sorry to keep bugging you with this, but can you trace in your car how antenna wire gets into the trunk from a trunk lid?
In GS trunk hinges a very different (its a self-closing trunk like in LS, I think) and when opened there is a bigger gap between trunk lid and trunk opening...
I have been examining my trunk and I'm affraid in GS it will not be possible. You can absolutely place the antenna like you did and use that wire holder to keep it in place, but than it has to get somewhere from a trunk lid into the trunk and in a car. The only place where trunk lid connects to the car is hinges. THAT is the place where a cable going to be flexed everytime you open a trunk and with antenna going around hinges. Is that where you have it? When you place this antenna-bug on a side fender, antenna wire just will come out from the trunk around the fender. On a trunk lid it has to hang in the air. I'm sorry to keep bugging you with this, but can you trace in your car how antenna wire gets into the trunk from a trunk lid?
In GS trunk hinges a very different (its a self-closing trunk like in LS, I think) and when opened there is a bigger gap between trunk lid and trunk opening...
#25
Yes, it definitely helps. Thanks!
I have been examining my trunk and I'm affraid in GS it will not be possible. You can absolutely place the antenna like you did and use that wire holder to keep it in place, but than it has to get somewhere from a trunk lid into the trunk and in a car. The only place where trunk lid connects to the car is hinges. THAT is the place where a cable going to be flexed everytime you open a trunk and with antenna going around hinges. Is that where you have it? When you place this antenna-bug on a side fender, antenna wire just will come out from the trunk around the fender. On a trunk lid it has to hang in the air. I'm sorry to keep bugging you with this, but can you trace in your car how antenna wire gets into the trunk from a trunk lid?
In GS trunk hinges a very different (its a self-closing trunk like in LS, I think) and when opened there is a bigger gap between trunk lid and trunk opening...
I have been examining my trunk and I'm affraid in GS it will not be possible. You can absolutely place the antenna like you did and use that wire holder to keep it in place, but than it has to get somewhere from a trunk lid into the trunk and in a car. The only place where trunk lid connects to the car is hinges. THAT is the place where a cable going to be flexed everytime you open a trunk and with antenna going around hinges. Is that where you have it? When you place this antenna-bug on a side fender, antenna wire just will come out from the trunk around the fender. On a trunk lid it has to hang in the air. I'm sorry to keep bugging you with this, but can you trace in your car how antenna wire gets into the trunk from a trunk lid?
In GS trunk hinges a very different (its a self-closing trunk like in LS, I think) and when opened there is a bigger gap between trunk lid and trunk opening...
My opinion, if you are not happy with the installer, go to another Lexus dealer and have the work done there.
#26
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MD, thanks for all this info!!! So, definitely with GS the only external choice is on the fender. Hinges are mechanical on the side, and the electrical connection is through a ribbon cable.
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Why don't you place the antenna inside on the rear deck next to the backup light? Cable runs up from the trunk, bypassing the hinges altogether. Better yet, it's in the car where someone can't mess with it. Location works with no problem with reception. GM at dealership I bought the 350 from even did it on his. Alien.
#29
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That is a problem, most of the places as of "now" refuse installation of Sirius antenna inside and literally make you sign a waiver that you will not complain about reception if its installed outside. In my case, I was told it can be installed inside but if reception is not good, I will have to pay money to relocate it. If I go to outside of "Lexus" approved installer or do it myself with an internal module to control Sirius from factory touch screen, the warranty is voided.
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Looking at ES 350 in next few months, in my 4Runner I have a portable XM unit I installed myself. If I get the car w/o nav is the XM built in to the tuner or do I have to use an aftermarket receiver as I have now? If it is an aftermarket receiver, does the dealer do a pretty clean install?