My ES350 UL is going to the crusher!!
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They could've given it to some poor guy across the Mexican border at least.
anyway, can you quickly summarize what your problems were with the first car? I don't remember you complaining either. But you did say you were optimistic about the "changes" in the 2nd car....
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I haven't heard anyone recently complain about transmission problems. Is it possible that Lexus really squashed all of them in Japan before shipping them cross seas?
anyway, can you quickly summarize what your problems were with the first car? I don't remember you complaining either. But you did say you were optimistic about the "changes" in the 2nd car....
please report back
I haven't heard anyone recently complain about transmission problems. Is it possible that Lexus really squashed all of them in Japan before shipping them cross seas?
Here are some of the new things I’ve found so far in the 01/07 that are better than the 07/06 car. The rising driver head rest – is fixed. The rain senescing wipers are more sensitive to rain and work much better. The drivers extender seat option works better actually makes the driver seat a little longer, It has a much quieter interior when driving, no road noise at all except for the occasional pot hole maybe the lack of road noise is due to the Bridgestone tires I had the Michelins before, no wind noise at all – Bob will like that, the engine is quieter. I took a sound test (sound meter pointed at the most noisy spot on the front grill is just under the “L” with the hood closed) of the 07/06 engine at first start fast idle is (84db ) and after driving “hot” at idle (79-81db). Which I thought was pretty good. The 10/07 sound test is not completed yet but do have sound test at hot temp just after driving for 10 miles measured at the same spot at idle gave a reading of (76db). The wood grain and leather trim is much better, the 06/07 had a few places where the leather looked like cow hide not smooth. No rear carpet noise that’s fixed – nojack will like that one, no rattles but then the car is to new as yet, the outside window chrome trim between front and rear doors is near perfectly align on driver and passenger sides, ES350BOB knows that one. I’ll be taking a sound test inside the car later and making more observation as time goes on. They changed the engine plastic cover fasteners with new kind of button fasteners. Front left and right HID lights are better align, the 06/07 drivers side HID head light was adjustment to low and I couldn’t see the road when making a left curving freeway ramp at night, had to use the high beams to see. I think this is good for now, I’ll check back later on.
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More on the rear carpet squeak - It's No More
I had to go out and check one more time for the carpet squeak. Lexus has rework the rear carpet around the center console where the squeak was, now the carpet is well molded close to the console and no matter how hard you thump the carpet no squeak. Hmm…does that mean Lexus reads this forum?? I think we were the only one’s make a joke of that squeak.
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Looks like they have fixed alot of the fit and finish problems that plague my car.... I'm intereseted to see if your new car has the 3-4 flare. I had my transmission replaced in december and it started flaring after about 400 miles (1 month later). I was actually told by my service manager that I probably shouldn't get another ES, since the flare hasn't been fixed yet.
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I had to go out and check one more time for the carpet squeak. Lexus has rework the rear carpet around the center console where the squeak was, now the carpet is well molded close to the console and no matter how hard you thump the carpet no squeak. Hmm…does that mean Lexus reads this forum?? I think we were the only one’s make a joke of that squeak.
hah. I have to see this for myself. I will stop by the showroom one of these days to check out the latest es350 builds........
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My sister had a Camaro bought back by GM back in the 80's. The next day the car was on the revolving car spinner out front of the dealership waiting for a new owner!
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I can assure you of this, it seems obvious to me someone in accounting that takes pride in their work reads this forum for sure and must have put their foot down, because the spreadsheet just released does not contain the obvious mathematical errors the prior releases did, particularly the errors of the year end release, other months.
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Back in the late 80's I had a Ford Taurus that had an electrical problem. The car lived in service, Ford factory service rep was involved, managers involved, etc. They could not fix it. They bought the car back. Not sure if it was considered a "lemon", but the car was on the used car lot for sale 2 days later.
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If you look at your sales documents for your new car, you just may see, As Is No Warranty, on them as regards the dealership, not as regards Lexus.
I saw that in bold print on my first ES documents and it may be in real fine print on my second but certainly the first.
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Whoa, checked papers nothing about as-is. Still have the 4 year warranty and the Platinum 7 years 1ooK as before. They did say I’ll have to wait and see if Lexus will change the Platinum start date to the new car date but will probably continue on from the start date of the old car. Lexus will change the Vin# on both warranty – so I’m covered. Hold your water is this another one of those had you going things? Lol.
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Whoa, checked papers nothing about as-is. Still have the 4 year warranty and the Platinum 7 years 1ooK as before. They did say I’ll have wait to see if Lexus will change the Platinum start date to the new car but will probably continue from the start date of the old car. Lexus will change the Vin# on both warranty – so I’m covered.
First dealer of mine was a rat, so that... As Is ...mumbo should have been a clue to me...LOL...but as explained to me it really is as is as far as the dealership is concerned because it is Lexus that is responsible for any and all warranty work.
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No problem, but I have to say I laughed with you, not at you, at your being told the car was to be crushed. That was so funny, and they must have known you were an easy mark for joking like that. You seem to have a very nice dealer and one with an interesting sense of humor too. I'd have pulled that on you myself because some people's reactions are more entertaining than spending a small fortune at the movies.
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As promised: here’s the engine noise sound test findings. All measurements taken by Radio Shack sound meter at the most noise producing spot on the front grill (just under the “L”) with hood closed.
**************(ES 07/06)******(ES 01/07)
Cold start fast idle**84db**********79-80db
Hot idle**********79-81db********76db
Yesterday while at the dealership having my XM swapped out from the other car I noticed all new ES’s with paper plates driving in for service were all whisper quite.
**************(ES 07/06)******(ES 01/07)
Cold start fast idle**84db**********79-80db
Hot idle**********79-81db********76db
Yesterday while at the dealership having my XM swapped out from the other car I noticed all new ES’s with paper plates driving in for service were all whisper quite.
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As promised: here’s the engine noise sound test findings. All measurements taken by Radio Shack sound meter at the most noise producing spot on the front grill (just under the “L”) with hood closed.
**************(ES 07/06)******(ES 01/07)
Cold start fast idle**84db**********79-80db
Hot idle**********79-81db********76db
Yesterday while at the dealership having my XM swapped out from the other car I noticed all new ES’s with paper plates driving in for service were all whisper quite.
**************(ES 07/06)******(ES 01/07)
Cold start fast idle**84db**********79-80db
Hot idle**********79-81db********76db
Yesterday while at the dealership having my XM swapped out from the other car I noticed all new ES’s with paper plates driving in for service were all whisper quite.
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