When will this crap end?
04-12-07, 09:35 PM
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Why go outside of Lexus family for slippage examples, or lack of them? I can't speak for all other models, but do you see any other section of CL forum talking about gear flares?!? I can only speak for my previous ES (with all its flares) and GS which never had a flare, cold or hot, snow or ice, rain or shine... Anyway, I still feel ES350 is a black sheep of this family 
04-16-07, 12:44 AM
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ESDragon and others, you may find it easier to duplicate the shift flare if you drive up a moderate grade. The extra load it places on the tranny causes mine to flare (about 1000rpms) like clock work...I was able to video the shift flare several times.
04-16-07, 12:45 PM
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Totally agree with you. Going up a slight grade will always produced a larger flare even when my car was warmed up.
04-16-07, 01:52 PM
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04-16-07, 03:44 PM
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I've only had my LS460 for about 2 weeks now. But the difference between shifting in the ES and LS is like night and day. In the LS, I can't even feel the transmission shifting gears under light or heavy acceleration. The engine in the ES had plenty of power. However, the transmission and engine in the LS have a very direct, responsive feel.
04-16-07, 06:55 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong here: The LS and GS transmissions are Lexus only offerings. You can't get them in any other "cheaper" product line, correct?
With the ES the trans is a Camry transmission. It was designed for the Camry and uploaded to the ES. Maybe that right there is the problem. The Camry transmission is trying to play in a higher league.... and isn't doing too well at it.
With the ES the trans is a Camry transmission. It was designed for the Camry and uploaded to the ES. Maybe that right there is the problem. The Camry transmission is trying to play in a higher league.... and isn't doing too well at it.
04-16-07, 07:48 PM
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Yes your right, this isn’t a Lexus transmission problem, the ES trans was designed and I believe built by Toyota. So far all Lexus design and built trans work flawlessly. So I wonder who's engineers are responsible for fixing it?
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04-16-07, 11:36 PM
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What is the latest on the Camry trans status?
04-17-07, 05:46 AM
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If you open the driver door and look at the door jamb sticker, you will see Toyota Motor as manufacturer, not Lexus, they are one in the same. Toyota engineers are and have been the Lexus engineers.
04-17-07, 06:25 AM
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Maybe this is a big part of the problem. Toyota sells a few hundred thousand Camrys. The trans has a problem... but they can pass it off as normal. Toyota moves forward and keeps building the existing trans design. Lexus therefore can't get a fix as the Camry operates "normally".
What is the latest on the Camry trans status?
What is the latest on the Camry trans status?
Why not the Avalon?
Why not just the ES?
It is for all intents and purposes a "bleeding edge" transmission... When has Toyota ever pulled their newest tricks out on the CAMRY?
BTW - The Camry guys are damn defensive about their beloved Camrys, they're ignoring the problems mostly or downplaying them... I guess there's a "class difference" being noticed where guys who spend $25K on a car are less critical than those who spend near $40K for the same problems.
04-17-07, 12:19 PM
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BTW - The Camry guys are damn defensive about their beloved Camrys, they're ignoring the problems mostly or downplaying them... I guess there's a "class difference" being noticed where guys who spend $25K on a car are less critical than those who spend near $40K for the same problems.
that's a chuckle.
i remember reading on edmunds about people like that.
the more I read about ES problems, the more it reminds me & pisses me off that it's just a gussied up camry. So much money was saved on this model, since all lexus had to do was provide a different interior and sheet metal.
04-17-07, 12:52 PM
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that's a chuckle.
i remember reading on edmunds about people like that.
the more I read about ES problems, the more it reminds me & pisses me off that it's just a gussied up camry. So much money was saved on this model, since all lexus had to do was provide a different interior and sheet metal.
i remember reading on edmunds about people like that.
the more I read about ES problems, the more it reminds me & pisses me off that it's just a gussied up camry. So much money was saved on this model, since all lexus had to do was provide a different interior and sheet metal.