yvan_es350

When will the new version of NAV maps be available?

Capirato

https://www.clublexus.com/forums/showthread.php?t=304995

~ Cap

MD350

Here is what I am doing to get my FREE version 7 (or newer) disk when it comes out.

Currently, all ES350's with version 5 are under a TSIB, because there are times your map shows false information due to errors. Instead of rushing to the dealer to get version 6, I will wait it out until some newer upgrades come out. TSIB is good for 4 years/50K miles. I am well under that.

amf1932

I already brought my car in to have them update the software because of this false information, but I was told that this upgrade does NOT have anything to do with the new version mapping. All it did was correct the indications of my car on the NAV map.

MD350

Alan, here is the TSIB. It states to order a new disk and destroy the old one.

Lexus Supports ASE Certification Page 1 of 3
Title:
NAVIGATION SYSTEM SHOWS VEHICLE
IN WRONG LOCATION
Models:
’06 IS 250/350 & ’07 ES 350, GS 450h, GX 470,
RX 350, & RX 400h
Technical Service
Information Bulletin
November 14, 2006
EL013-06
TSIB REVISION NOTICE:
S December 22, 2006: A note has been added to the Parts Information table.
Previous versions of this TSIB should be discarded.
Some customers may experience a condition with their navigation system, where the
vehicle icon is intermittently shown on the map in the wrong location. A special DVD map
disc with a revised operating system has been developed to remedy this condition.
NOTE:
If the customer has purchased a Gen 5 update disc after November 1, 2006, then this
TSIB is NOT applicable.
S 2006 model year IS 250 and IS 350 vehicles equipped with the Lexus Navigation
System produced BEFORE the Production Change Effective VINs shown in
this TSIB.
S 2007 model year ES 350, GS 450h, GX 470, RX 350, and RX 400h vehicles
equipped with the Lexus Navigation System produced BEFORE the Production
Change Effective VINs shown in this TSIB.
OP CODE DESCRIPTION MODEL TIME OFP T1 T2
ES 350 0.2
GS 450h 0.2
GX 470 0.2
EL5081 R & R Map Disc IS 250 0.2 86271--53020 87 74
IS 350 0.2
RX 350 0.6
RX 400h 0.6
Applicable Warranty*:
This repair is covered under the Lexus Comprehesive Warranty. This warranty is in
effect for 48 months or 50,000 miles, whichever occurs first, from the vehicle’s
in-service date.
* Warranty application is limited to correction of a problem based upon a customer’s specific complaint.
ELECTRICAL
Introduction
Applicable
Vehicles
Warranty
Information
NAVIGATION SYSTEM SHOWS VEHICLE IN WRONG LOCATION -- EL013-06 Revised November 14, 2006
Page 2 of 3
MODEL PLANT MODEL CODE PRODUCTION CHANGE EFFECTIVE VIN
ES 350 TMK GSV40 JTHBJ46G#72046884
GS 450h Tahara GWS191 JTHBC96S#75004284
GX 470 Tahara UZJ120 JTJBT20X#70127013
TMK
GSE20
JTHBK262#62021540
IS 250
Tahara
JTHBK262#65025634
TMK
GSE25
JTHCK262#62008646
Tahara
JTHCK262#65007846
IS 350
TMK
GSE21
JTHBE262#62007062
Tahara
JTHBE262#65011814
TMK
GSU30
JTJGK31U#70005657
RX 350
TMMC
2T2GK31U#7C015252
TMK
GSU35
JTJHK31U#72018378
TMMC
2T2HK31U#7C024635
RX 400h TMK
MHU33 JTJGW31U#72001300
MHU38 JTJHW31U#72008552
PREVIOUS PART NUMBER CURRENT PART NUMBER PART NAME QTY
86271--53020 Same Navigation Map Disc 1
NOTE:
The navigation map disc MUST be ordered through the Denso Exchange Program to
qualify for warranty coverage.
ITEM
NO.
SPECIAL SERVICE TOOLS (SSTs) PART NUMBER QTY DRW**
1 Plastic Pry Tool Set* 00002--06000--01 1 20
COMPONENT(S)
OF KIT/SET
NOTE:
S All components from this kit/set are required.
S Plastic Panel Clip Removal Tool
(P/N 00002--06001--01)
S Plastic Emblem Removal Tool
(P/N 00002--06002--01)
* Essential SSTs.
** Refers to drawer number in SST Storage System.
NOTE:
Additional SSTs may be ordered by calling SPX/OTC at 1-800-933-8335.
Production
Change
Information
Parts
Information
Required
SSTs
NAVIGATION SYSTEM SHOWS VEHICLE IN WRONG LOCATION -- EL013-06 Revised November 14, 2006
Page 3 of 3
The map disc supplier part number changed to 5--464210--092. Refer to the following
illustration to locate the supplier’s part number (directly below the OEM part number):
P/N 5--464210--092
1. Order a navigation map disc through DENSO by calling 1--888--668--2900.
When ordering this special map disc, provide DENSO the TSIB number, dealer code,
and vehicle information.
2. Replace the navigation map disc.
Refer to the Technical Information System (TIS), applicable model year and model
Repair Manual, Audio/Visual/Telematics -- Navigation/Multi Info Display -- “Navigation:
Navigation ECU: Removal” and “Navigation: Navigation ECU:Installation”.
3. Cut the original navigation map disc in half and dispose of it.
Identification
Method
Repair
Procedure

amf1932

I was looking at my repair invoice, and it states that they ordered a CD disc for the TSIB upgrade. Here is what it says, "C/ states navigation gives wrong directions". When I asked my service advisor if this disc upgrades the mapping, he told me NO, all it does is upgrade the software so it reads correctly on the screen, but the mapping remains the same as the previous disc that was removed. Am I missing something?

jerfitz

MD350,

We know that Ver 6 can be burned with a load file from Ver 5 so the NAV system is usable when the car is moving but can the Ver 7 ??? I wonder!

I raise the question because having the ability for my wife to enter a new destination while I am driving the car is VERY important to me.

To me it's so important that I wouldn't upgrade if I lost this ability.

MD350

That is a good point. I still have the original disk, will have to weigh my options if and when I decide to get a new disk.

MD350

Maybe your issue had nothing to do with the TSIB. Below are issues I am having:

1) I live on the 700 block of my street. When home, it says I am on the 600 block. The street number is always wrong no matter where I am at.
2) Everything seems to be off by about a block or so.
3) Also, it says I arrived at my destination about 1 block too early. However, it has always given me overall correct directions (within a block)

I assume this is a disk issue?

amf1932

All I know is ever since the upgrade, the NAV unit is as accurate as I can expect. The announcement, "You have arrived at your destination, your route guidance is now off" happens exactly at the front entrance to my house. I don't think it was this accurate before the upgrade.

gappell

$260 for the upgrade to Ver 7.01 is a rip off. Lexus takes us all to the cleaners for upgrades and parts. You can buy a portable GPS for that money with upgrades available online. I hope somebody finds a way to duplicate these discs and charge a reasonable price.

toneman

Man, isn't there someone out there who has access to a bunch of them to resell on Ebay or something? I say that because I don't have to fret about having to pay (near)-full price for map update discs for the nav in my GMC Yukon Denali--matter-of-fact, I just recently bought the latest version for my GMC nav for less than half of retail/list ($80 for what normally retails for around $170 at the dealership)...and no, it wasn't a burned copy--it was a brand-new, sealed map disc. I've bought my last two map updates for my GMC on Ebay...

redglass

I just received a note from Lexus that there is a new map update available but it does not say what version. My 07 ES is less than a year old. Is there a way to tell what version I have and what is the version they are hawking?

Also it says $265 MSRP (labor not included) Can I install a newer version myself?

dreyfus

If you press the MENU button and then the Map DVD soft button the current version installed will display.

Yes, you can swap out the DVD yourself. Use your fingernails to push up and remove the gray plastic Lexus panel at the bottom of the NAV screen. From the same screen that displayed the Map DVD version, press the eject soft button. This will eject the NAV DVD. Just put in the new one and snap the plastic cover back in place and you're in business.

yelnoc

I'm sorry but you cannot buy an aftermarket worth a crap for that money, the ones I've seen I'd settle for were about $600 or so discounted. I just looked at about 20 plus models at the midwest's greatest electronics store ABT. Plus the screen are about 1/2 the size and in most cases you don't want to leave them in the car so you have to have some sort of mounting system and take them in and out. The more expensive systems are functionally superior and other than not being built in, or big enough for us old guys to read, are just terrific!

My 03 GS 430 has no problems, no streets missing that are an issue, etc., so the new upgrade isn't a slam dunk for me even though the price is not an issue. If they updated to a 3/4 view, that would really be sweet, but I have not seen anyone actually provide much info on the changes to my era car with the upgrade.

That being said all you say about the pricing for parts and service is the only thing agreed to across the board on this Forum. But you know that going in and mitigate as you can. The great thing about this board is that you have people that love the challege of being told they can't do something......