Rotors
12-22-07, 03:01 PM
#16
The big problem is this: A rotor, whether the car/brakes have 100 miles or 20,000 miles can warp if the rotor was extremely hot from heavy duty braking, and than cooled very rapidly......as when you go through a puddle, or a car wash.
It comes down to this: The dealer can be a good guy and turn or replace the rotor as a goodwill gesture, or he can stick to the warranty. It seems that lately they're the later.
It comes down to this: The dealer can be a good guy and turn or replace the rotor as a goodwill gesture, or he can stick to the warranty. It seems that lately they're the later.
I haven't checked the TSIB thread lately. Is this included? Should this really be an issue at 15K miles??
12-22-07, 03:30 PM
#17
Lexus Champion
i think Mack is onto something wondering about a pattern.
Do a search keying in Toyota brake problems, Toyota rotor problems. My neighbor mentioned this in connection with his Tundra, warped rotors low miles but I don't remember how many miles he said, and had looked into it and stated it was happening a lot from what he could tell from searching, those are two searches he did. He was not pleased to discover that Toyota and dealers were well aware of it after the hoops he went through blaming his driving habits. Needless to say, he got it addressed eventually at no charge but a fight first.
12-23-07, 05:19 AM
#19
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In spite of my experiences with other issues of the ES I am going to guess that since Toyota is aware of it, ES owners will not have an argument or not much of one anyway because it would be difficult to attempt to bamboozle someone on a brake issue........brakes don't need to learn...
12-23-07, 08:56 AM
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12-23-07, 08:59 AM
#22
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
Oh, I agree. The rotor should be able to withstand the temperature change a lot longer than 1 year or 20K miles. But, I run mine through a full service wash, and they spray the wheels and I see the steam come up from the wheels.
12-23-07, 09:04 AM
#23
Lexus Champion
I just figure my neighbor, friend Steve, knows what he is talking about as did the 2nd opinion guy on my first ES350.
My sense tells me that going from hot from braking or during then to cooler or wet happens all the time in a rain storm so it seems it should not damage a rotor.
Otherwise they need to start making them out the cookware pots and pans alloys/material you see advertised all the time that go through those extremes all the time and don't warp.
12-23-07, 09:07 AM
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12-23-07, 09:08 AM
#25
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
12-23-07, 09:09 AM
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12-23-07, 09:20 AM
#27
Lexus Champion
Well, remember I said I had no clue on rotors so don't yet get too scared.
I will say this, if, and i hope not, but if your dash lights up like a christmas tree and your tranny strands you...you'll be saying there is reason to raise ruckus, that Bob is brilliant
Or, if when you go in for rotors, they tell you it's normal for them to be in that shape, now fork over 500 bucks...LOL
I will say this, if, and i hope not, but if your dash lights up like a christmas tree and your tranny strands you...you'll be saying there is reason to raise ruckus, that Bob is brilliant
Or, if when you go in for rotors, they tell you it's normal for them to be in that shape, now fork over 500 bucks...LOL
12-23-07, 09:34 AM
#28
Well, remember I said I had no clue on rotors so don't yet get too scared.
I will say this, if, and i hope not, but if your dash lights up like a christmas tree and your tranny strands you...you'll be saying there is reason to raise ruckus, that Bob is brilliant
Or, if when you go in for rotors, they tell you it's normal for them to be in that shape, now fork over 500 bucks...LOL
I will say this, if, and i hope not, but if your dash lights up like a christmas tree and your tranny strands you...you'll be saying there is reason to raise ruckus, that Bob is brilliant
Or, if when you go in for rotors, they tell you it's normal for them to be in that shape, now fork over 500 bucks...LOL
Hey, I ran into my buddy last night who bought my Accord. 210K miles and still running strong. Maybe I should have kept it...
12-23-07, 11:52 AM
#29
Lexus Test Driver
Thread Starter
I am a true Honda fan. My wife's Pilot has not had 1 warranty claim with 12K miles. My fathers 05 Accord, only oil changes and tire rotations. My Mother as a 99 TL that has 65K miles and still running strong...original tranny!! Not to mention several other Honda and Acura products in my extended family and everyone loves them.
12-23-07, 12:25 PM
#30
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