how loud do you play your ML?
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just be careful with those ML amps.....they will burn out when you put too much load on it...that's why we sell them all the time...and they are NOT cheap....good luck
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my reference disk is Dire Straits Brother In Arms It is a SACD disk and the ML is for DVD-A so I am thinking it must be a hybrid disk anyway it sounds just perfect at about 50 on the volume. I want to try more high end disks but I have SACD at home so I really don't want to buy the DVD-A disks especially if the SACD (at least some of them) seems to work with the ML
any more comments appreciated
any more comments appreciated
While the ES' ML system has it all over the stock "premium" system, it's a far cry from the best implementations of ML in the Lexus fleet. The frequency response seems to be optimized for movie soundtracks rather than music (my system has a huge peak around 200Hz, which makes some tracks so boomy they are unlistenable). The rudimentary tone controls are useless in trying to correct this. Shortly after I leased my ES, I went round and round with my dealer, then corporate, over the 5.1 downmixing and terrible equalization, and they finally shut me up by sending me a check for $1600 (the approximate MSRP of the ML option).
For regular CDs, the sound can be improved by turning on the DSP. But for surround, solving the frequency response was a bit more involved. I only went through this procedure because once you hear a well-made 5.1 mix in the car, it's hard to listen to just stereo!
Since the highest-quality 5.1 my ML can produce discretely is DTS, I created six DTS test discs with third-octave tones from 20Hz to 20kHz, one for each channel. I then measured each channel's FR with my trusty Radio Shack sound level meter. I found that the biggest offenders were the front L and R channels -- the others had acceptably flatter FR.
Next, I ripped my DVD-As to 96/24 WAVs, equalized the front channels, and processed the tracks to DTS discs. Since the DTS specification includes the CD format (these were sold as "DTS Music Discs"), I opted for DTS-CDs to avoid the problem of the Nanny-car touch screen lock-out on DVDs. They load and play just like regular CDs, except in discrete 5.1!
A bit of a work-around, but the results are worth it.
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I was discussing this post with my bride the other night so we decided to try a few of the different volume ranges. We got to about 25 and our eyes started to water and as we approached 40 our ears began to bleed. So back to 12-15 range. Good luck on you folks that go deaf. I understand hearing aids are running around $4k. Now I understand why the boomers are yelling into their cell phones. Maybe that's why texting is so popular. Hahaha
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how loud do you play your ML Bobsobi comment
wow Bobsobi lots of info I know about DTS for home theater movies but not for music. There is much discussion on the sound quality of DTS over DD5.1.
so I assume you are talking about concert dvd's recorded in DTS format? do you have some examples?
also how does the Dire Straits cd sound soooo good if it is just a hybrid cd?
finally how did you create dts disks again? what was the source?
my home stereo has SCAD so I really don't want to go to one my format ie DVD-A but maybe I will play around with the DTS you recommend.
so I assume you are talking about concert dvd's recorded in DTS format? do you have some examples?
also how does the Dire Straits cd sound soooo good if it is just a hybrid cd?
finally how did you create dts disks again? what was the source?
my home stereo has SCAD so I really don't want to go to one my format ie DVD-A but maybe I will play around with the DTS you recommend.
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I assume your ES is not a 2010, in which case DTS 5.1 is the best you can do for discrete surround in your car.
so I assume you are talking about concert dvd's recorded in DTS format? do you have some examples?
http://tehparadox.com/forum/f117/uni...cd-list-63791/
also how does the Dire Straits cd sound soooo good if it is just a hybrid cd?
finally how did you create dts disks again? what was the source?
my home stereo has SCAD so I really don't want to go to one my format ie DVD-A but maybe I will play around with the DTS you recommend.
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installing and EXTERNAL SACD Player
folks anyone had any luck in installing a sony MEX-DV2200 in an ML system? I read elsewhere its impossible to install it within the complexities of ML? any direction on this would be appreciated
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as for the level I listen at... about 25 for the radio, 35 for CDs (they seem to be really quiet) and 50 if all the windows and sunroof is open on the highway...
note that i have my mid and high settings one below the default and my bass down 2
I just recently purchased my '07 and was a little dissapointed about the ML sound quality, i'm thinking of maybe installing an alpine FIT or MS-8 and a small amp and 6" boxed sub
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My volume settings on my ML with most SAT broadcasts has been between 45 and 58. I have the ASL off, the treble flat and the mid 3 ticks below flat, bass 2 ticks below max and no surround. I agree with others that the source material is the overall dictator of how well the sound is. Some R&B tracks have excellent bass and many rock tracks I have found to have very little bass. I just started experimenting with the USB port on one of those micro sized USB sticks (so I don't break it reaching in the console). Anyone have any advice for format settings? I tried WMA with the highest rates and it would not work. I'll have to try turning on the ASL as mentioned here as well.
Lastly is there any MP3 mixing software to set your own equalized recordings?
Thanks in advance to the forum members.
Lastly is there any MP3 mixing software to set your own equalized recordings?
Thanks in advance to the forum members.
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