07-12 The most reliable year(s) Consumer Reports
#16
You really need to make up your mind on what you really want. There is no comparison with the ES330 and the 2007-2012 ES 350 the 350 is a rocket on wheels compared to the ES330 and looks totally different. Stop looking at dealers cars unless you insist on a newer certified pre owned. There is no such thing as a deal there.
If needed. Go to your local bank and qualify for a used car loan, then buy what you really want from a private seller. A Lexus with low mileage, good maintenance, and no accidents. (Get the carfax)
A 2005 Es 330 with 75,000 miles is worth between $7500 and $9000 (nav another $200) and probably needs a water pump and timing belt at 80 to 100k.
If needed. Go to your local bank and qualify for a used car loan, then buy what you really want from a private seller. A Lexus with low mileage, good maintenance, and no accidents. (Get the carfax)
A 2005 Es 330 with 75,000 miles is worth between $7500 and $9000 (nav another $200) and probably needs a water pump and timing belt at 80 to 100k.
#17
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my 07 has treated me well
i have had the alternator and Water Pump replaced those are the two major repairs that its had to have the wp went at 80k and the alternator went bad at 109k i think
right now there is one major repair that needs to be done thats the Cat Converter for bank 1 dealer told me 1300 i did have a independant shop say 700
i have had the alternator and Water Pump replaced those are the two major repairs that its had to have the wp went at 80k and the alternator went bad at 109k i think
right now there is one major repair that needs to be done thats the Cat Converter for bank 1 dealer told me 1300 i did have a independant shop say 700
Did you buy it new?
#18
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My top priorities in order in a 350 first choice or 330
Suspension in like new condition - when I test drive an ES if the suspension is not great, then that kills the deal right there and you really can't repair a worn out suspension in an ES for a reasonable amount of money.
Seat comfort - sometimes the seat is worn out and is not comfortable - but that can be replaced, so it is not a deal killer.
Special category - parking sensors - can be added, but I would prefer factory sensors.
This is a car for me and my wife. So I have to convince her.
She has complained that our previous leased car, a 2013 Ford Fusion plugin, was hard to park.
This doesn't really make sense logically, because she drove our leased 2010 ES for 2 years and never complained about parking.
She comments that our 2nd car, a 1997 Corolla, that we have had for 15 years, is so easy to park in any parking spot.
Front parking sensors can give someone more confidence in parking.
Apple Android compatible Head Unit.
It is hard to imagine having to enter in an address into the car nav unit manually like people did just a few years ago.
In my 2013 Ford Fusion, the voice recognition was superb,
but it still added an extra step from just looking something up directly on google maps.
Now I just go to the location on Google maps, (the star) and press navigate and that is it.
So I would prefer an ES 350 with nav and parking sensors.
Then I will take install the head unit, probably an Alpine 107.
http://alpine-usa.com/company/press/...apple-carplay/
Yes I agree that private person is the prefered way to buy a car.
But it is very hard to find one that way in the San Jose CA area.
If a good one is available, it is sold immediately.
This happened to me 2 days ago.
A 2007 ES was being sold in pristine condition, but I was too slow and someone else got it first.
Suspension in like new condition - when I test drive an ES if the suspension is not great, then that kills the deal right there and you really can't repair a worn out suspension in an ES for a reasonable amount of money.
Seat comfort - sometimes the seat is worn out and is not comfortable - but that can be replaced, so it is not a deal killer.
Special category - parking sensors - can be added, but I would prefer factory sensors.
This is a car for me and my wife. So I have to convince her.
She has complained that our previous leased car, a 2013 Ford Fusion plugin, was hard to park.
This doesn't really make sense logically, because she drove our leased 2010 ES for 2 years and never complained about parking.
She comments that our 2nd car, a 1997 Corolla, that we have had for 15 years, is so easy to park in any parking spot.
Front parking sensors can give someone more confidence in parking.
Apple Android compatible Head Unit.
It is hard to imagine having to enter in an address into the car nav unit manually like people did just a few years ago.
In my 2013 Ford Fusion, the voice recognition was superb,
but it still added an extra step from just looking something up directly on google maps.
Now I just go to the location on Google maps, (the star) and press navigate and that is it.
So I would prefer an ES 350 with nav and parking sensors.
Then I will take install the head unit, probably an Alpine 107.
http://alpine-usa.com/company/press/...apple-carplay/
Yes I agree that private person is the prefered way to buy a car.
But it is very hard to find one that way in the San Jose CA area.
If a good one is available, it is sold immediately.
This happened to me 2 days ago.
A 2007 ES was being sold in pristine condition, but I was too slow and someone else got it first.
Last edited by jgcec; 01-18-17 at 12:15 PM. Reason: clarity
#19
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I am not completely sure why there is vibrations in a car at a stoplight.
Here are some reasons
worn engine mounts - not absorbing vibration
engine timing - should not be an issue with modern cars
worn spark plugs
poor maintenance, not changing oil enough, spark plugs worn, fuel injectors clogged,
I would love an expert reply to this question.
Here are some reasons
worn engine mounts - not absorbing vibration
engine timing - should not be an issue with modern cars
worn spark plugs
poor maintenance, not changing oil enough, spark plugs worn, fuel injectors clogged,
I would love an expert reply to this question.
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