Oil needs changed interval ?
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w84me - Watch the Toyota Master Tech video posted above as he explains how to check the temp through the Diagnostic Port and doing some procedure of shifting in and out of drive etc until a light comes on. I highly recommend you learn the proper procedure as the transmission is very touchy about fluid level.
On a cold drain and fill, you will drain no more than 2.2 quarts on a transmission that has the proper fluid level. I have done this on 2 different vehicles. Do it when your car is cold and the new ATF is the same temp as ATF and all oils expand when hot.
When draining the fluid first remove the drain plug and some fluid will drain, when it stops stick the 6MM Allen wrench in the hole and unscrew the overflow tube and more fluid will drain. Try to have the car level.
You can refill with WS, or MAG 1 full synthetic low viscosity multi vehicle ATF which is what I have been using for several years and it works better than WS ATF and is only about $30 for 6 quarts at Amazon, others have used Maxlife ATF.
On a cold drain and fill, you will drain no more than 2.2 quarts on a transmission that has the proper fluid level. I have done this on 2 different vehicles. Do it when your car is cold and the new ATF is the same temp as ATF and all oils expand when hot.
When draining the fluid first remove the drain plug and some fluid will drain, when it stops stick the 6MM Allen wrench in the hole and unscrew the overflow tube and more fluid will drain. Try to have the car level.
You can refill with WS, or MAG 1 full synthetic low viscosity multi vehicle ATF which is what I have been using for several years and it works better than WS ATF and is only about $30 for 6 quarts at Amazon, others have used Maxlife ATF.
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I just gave my transmission the best flush ever due to leakage. 1st I flushed by just draining. went thru 2 gallons doing this. then did an actual pan removal. got a leak, did it again. got a leak, finally got steel gasket from dealer. think that solved the leak, but then discovered, I may not have been leaking, but blowing trans fluid out the breather tube that goes up near the front of the engine.
Have I been over filling this whole time? I have seen people say fill to top of fill hole at 150 deg, which I did. last time, I did even less than that, since I new it takes about 2 gallons to fill up, I only did 1.75. (I think the gallon is actuall 3.7L or something close to that) anway, still leaking, but after driving it stopped. that is when I inspected closer, and the leak seems to be from the breather (or what ever that thing is called)
Am I over filling the trans ???
Have I been over filling this whole time? I have seen people say fill to top of fill hole at 150 deg, which I did. last time, I did even less than that, since I new it takes about 2 gallons to fill up, I only did 1.75. (I think the gallon is actuall 3.7L or something close to that) anway, still leaking, but after driving it stopped. that is when I inspected closer, and the leak seems to be from the breather (or what ever that thing is called)
Am I over filling the trans ???
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I actually usually change it about every 7,500 miles as a sort of compromise. I do think that most of the wear is in the final 2,000 miles. It also depends on the type of driving you do. City driving is harder on the engine and oil than long highway trips.
If you only did one transmission drain and fill, I would do another one soon as it only takes out 2 of the 7 quarts in the transmission.
If you only did one transmission drain and fill, I would do another one soon as it only takes out 2 of the 7 quarts in the transmission.
When I first bought my LS430 10 years ago with 53k miles I took it to my Indy tech shop and they did a BG trans fluid exchange and replaced all the fluid by running new trans fluid with a connection some where while engine running until it ran clear pink . It took 14 gallons to clear out the old fluid that had a viscosity like Karo syrup combine with a cola color.
Have you heard of this method. Tech told me he makes his fortune mainly repairing transmissions that are said to have permanent fluid.
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clarkkubia - that is the typical method of doing a fluid exchange on an automatic transmission. I have done it myself at home on older cars that had dipsticks to check the ATF level.
I also am pretty sure they only flushed 14 quarts, not 14 gallons of ATF. These machines are made by several companies and precisely measure the amount of fluid that leaves and enters the transmission. They often first put some additives into the transmission to loosen up the old dirt before changing the fluid. Your old LS had a dipstick which makes it a lot easier to check the fluid level than the temperature sensitive overflow tube the crazed Toyota engineers put into the Aisin 6 speed automatic that is used in so many Toyota and Lexus vehicles
I also am pretty sure they only flushed 14 quarts, not 14 gallons of ATF. These machines are made by several companies and precisely measure the amount of fluid that leaves and enters the transmission. They often first put some additives into the transmission to loosen up the old dirt before changing the fluid. Your old LS had a dipstick which makes it a lot easier to check the fluid level than the temperature sensitive overflow tube the crazed Toyota engineers put into the Aisin 6 speed automatic that is used in so many Toyota and Lexus vehicles
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Btw, transmissions without dipstick are everywhere, my Acura rdx 10sp transmission has no dipstick and its complicated to change fluid. Unlik Toyota, Honda still has maintanence schedule that requires drain and fill every 60k miles. The lifetime fluid is a non-sense that Toyota came up with.
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tolian21 - that is how I change the ATF on my RX and Sienna and the ES has the same transmission. A cold drain and fill is simple and fast, just measure exactly how much has drained. Having done this on a few cars the proper amount should be about 2 quarts. If it is a lot lower than 2 quarts trying some more and note if it shifts better. I found that my Sienna only drained a quart and a half.while the RX drained 2 quarts and shifted better. When I added more to the Sienna, it shifted better and the throttle responded faster from a stop. You can always adjust the level by draining a bit out later. Note the overflow plug that is inside the drain hole and must be removed to fully drain it.
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It all depends on your driving habits, if you make a lot of short trips without letting your car to warm up fully and/or spend idling in traffic, does not matter what synthetic oil you use, the oil needs to be changed sooner, 4-5k miles.
You can also use motor hours, if engine has total of 300 hours, probably good idea to change it.
if you always drive highway and its long trips, and got synthetic oil, 10-15k miles will work fine
You can also use motor hours, if engine has total of 300 hours, probably good idea to change it.
if you always drive highway and its long trips, and got synthetic oil, 10-15k miles will work fine
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