Oil needs changed interval ?
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dknights (06-26-21)
12-05-20, 12:35 PM
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4500 miles.
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ESh (12-06-20)
12-06-20, 05:46 AM
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I didn't know the 5th gen ES has a oil change reminder light/message. I change my oil every 6,000 to 7,000 KMs or 6 months (whichever comes first) with Penzoil Ultra Plat. I know I change them earlier than advised, but I'm following the manual, albeit that interval is based on non-synthetic oil. I want the car to last me years to come, and I make sure I'm on top of all the maintenance.
Should I perhaps be changing it less often? I don't mind spending extra time and money to change oil on a more frequent basis, but I also do not want to be wasteful.
Should I perhaps be changing it less often? I don't mind spending extra time and money to change oil on a more frequent basis, but I also do not want to be wasteful.
12-06-20, 05:52 AM
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You are changing your oil too often and wasting money and resources. Any modern non-synthetic oil can easily go 5,000 miles (8,000 KM). If you are using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum you can go the Lexus recommended oil change interval of 10,000 miles (16,000 KM) with no problems.
Don't forget to change your transmission fluid every 50,000 miles or so if you plan to keep it a long time. But that has been covered in other threads and is subject to much argument about whether it is even needed. I just think a simple drain and fill done cold which does about 2 quarts will help it last longer.
Don't forget to change your transmission fluid every 50,000 miles or so if you plan to keep it a long time. But that has been covered in other threads and is subject to much argument about whether it is even needed. I just think a simple drain and fill done cold which does about 2 quarts will help it last longer.
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Zereldo (12-06-20)
12-06-20, 06:05 AM
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You are changing your oil too often and wasting money and resources. Any modern non-synthetic oil can easily go 5,000 miles (8,000 KM). If you are using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum you can go the Lexus recommended oil change interval of 10,000 miles (16,000 KM) with no problems.
Don't forget to change your transmission fluid every 50,000 miles or so if you plan to keep it a long time. But that has been covered in other threads and is subject to much argument about whether it is even needed. I just think a simple drain and fill done cold which does about 2 quarts will help it last longer.
Don't forget to change your transmission fluid every 50,000 miles or so if you plan to keep it a long time. But that has been covered in other threads and is subject to much argument about whether it is even needed. I just think a simple drain and fill done cold which does about 2 quarts will help it last longer.
16,000 KMs b/w oil change? I don't think I have the heart drive it that much without an oil change. My 2018 XJL has oil change interval of 25,000 KMs or a year, but I change it every 6 months anyway. The Jaguar's engine is more susceptible to heat soak due to the supercharger, hence I do not follow the suggested interval for various fluid change and do them more frequently.
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12-06-20, 06:08 AM
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You are changing your oil too often and wasting money and resources. Any modern non-synthetic oil can easily go 5,000 miles (8,000 KM). If you are using Pennzoil Ultra Platinum you can go the Lexus recommended oil change interval of 10,000 miles (16,000 KM) with no problems.
Don't forget to change your transmission fluid every 50,000 miles or so if you plan to keep it a long time. But that has been covered in other threads and is subject to much argument about whether it is even needed. I just think a simple drain and fill done cold which does about 2 quarts will help it last longer.
Don't forget to change your transmission fluid every 50,000 miles or so if you plan to keep it a long time. But that has been covered in other threads and is subject to much argument about whether it is even needed. I just think a simple drain and fill done cold which does about 2 quarts will help it last longer.
12-06-20, 07:06 AM
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I actually usually change it about every 7,500 miles as a sort of compromise. I do think that most of the wear is in the final 2,000 miles. It also depends on the type of driving you do. City driving is harder on the engine and oil than long highway trips.
If you only did one transmission drain and fill, I would do another one soon as it only takes out 2 of the 7 quarts in the transmission.
If you only did one transmission drain and fill, I would do another one soon as it only takes out 2 of the 7 quarts in the transmission.
12-06-20, 08:41 AM
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Don't forget to change your transmission fluid every 50,000 miles or so if you plan to keep it a long time. But that has been covered in other threads and is subject to much argument about whether it is even needed. I just think a simple drain and fill done cold which does about 2 quarts will help it last longer.
Have I been over filling this whole time? I have seen people say fill to top of fill hole at 150 deg, which I did. last time, I did even less than that, since I new it takes about 2 gallons to fill up, I only did 1.75. (I think the gallon is actuall 3.7L or something close to that) anway, still leaking, but after driving it stopped. that is when I inspected closer, and the leak seems to be from the breather (or what ever that thing is called)
Am I over filling the trans ???
12-06-20, 01:48 PM
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w94me - you have been way overfilling the transmission. This is not filled like a manual transmission where, as you did, you fill it until it runs out the fill hole. The transmission only holds about 7 quarts. There is an overflow tube inside the drain hole that is monitored for overflow at a certain temp and that is how the level is checked.
The reason it blew fluid out the breather is you overfilled it. Read how to change it the right way in this link from the RX350 forum as it uses the same transmission, as do many other Toyota & Lexus vehicles. There is no real difference between the AWD RX and FWD except that AWD holds a tiny bit more fluid.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...oler-100k.html
For more info read this long thread in the RX forum about changing your ATF. It mostly covers doing a simple drain and fill as opposed to a fluid exchange. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...hreads-37.html
Then see this youtube channel from a Toyota Master Tech who explains how to change the ATF, as do many others on youtube. He shows how to check the level without a temp. scanner.
However your fluid level is so screwed up you need to follow the Toyota/Lexus temperature based procedure or the one shown by a Toyota Tech on youtube
The reason it blew fluid out the breather is you overfilled it. Read how to change it the right way in this link from the RX350 forum as it uses the same transmission, as do many other Toyota & Lexus vehicles. There is no real difference between the AWD RX and FWD except that AWD holds a tiny bit more fluid.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...oler-100k.html
For more info read this long thread in the RX forum about changing your ATF. It mostly covers doing a simple drain and fill as opposed to a fluid exchange. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...hreads-37.html
Then see this youtube channel from a Toyota Master Tech who explains how to change the ATF, as do many others on youtube. He shows how to check the level without a temp. scanner.
However your fluid level is so screwed up you need to follow the Toyota/Lexus temperature based procedure or the one shown by a Toyota Tech on youtube
Last edited by Clutchless; 12-06-20 at 01:53 PM.
12-07-20, 05:52 AM
#12
Noted. I purcahsed the car at 133,000 KMs, It's closing 170,000 KMs now. I had the transmission fluid drain and refill service done earlier this year. As far as I know, it was not serviced previously. I ended up changing all the fluids in the car along with spark plugs.
16,000 KMs b/w oil change? I don't think I have the heart drive it that much without an oil change. My 2018 XJL has oil change interval of 25,000 KMs or a year, but I change it every 6 months anyway. The Jaguar's engine is more susceptible to heat soak due to the supercharger, hence I do not follow the suggested interval for various fluid change and do them more frequently.
16,000 KMs b/w oil change? I don't think I have the heart drive it that much without an oil change. My 2018 XJL has oil change interval of 25,000 KMs or a year, but I change it every 6 months anyway. The Jaguar's engine is more susceptible to heat soak due to the supercharger, hence I do not follow the suggested interval for various fluid change and do them more frequently.
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Zereldo (12-07-20)
12-07-20, 06:49 AM
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With those better oils like TGMO, M1 EP and so on you can drive 10000 miles and the oil will be like new. Ask me how I know.
Last edited by ESh; 12-07-20 at 10:48 AM.
12-07-20, 11:14 AM
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w94me - you have been way overfilling the transmission. This is not filled like a manual transmission where, as you did, you fill it until it runs out the fill hole. The transmission only holds about 7 quarts. There is an overflow tube inside the drain hole that is monitored for overflow at a certain temp and that is how the level is checked.
The reason it blew fluid out the breather is you overfilled it. Read how to change it the right way in this link from the RX350 forum as it uses the same transmission, as do many other Toyota & Lexus vehicles. There is no real difference between the AWD RX and FWD except that AWD holds a tiny bit more fluid.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...oler-100k.html
For more info read this long thread in the RX forum about changing your ATF. It mostly covers doing a simple drain and fill as opposed to a fluid exchange. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...hreads-37.html
Then see this youtube channel from a Toyota Master Tech who explains how to change the ATF, as do many others on youtube. He shows how to check the level without a temp. scanner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRxSu4-4ojo&t=21s
However your fluid level is so screwed up you need to follow the Toyota/Lexus temperature based procedure or the one shown by a Toyota Tech on youtube
The reason it blew fluid out the breather is you overfilled it. Read how to change it the right way in this link from the RX350 forum as it uses the same transmission, as do many other Toyota & Lexus vehicles. There is no real difference between the AWD RX and FWD except that AWD holds a tiny bit more fluid.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...oler-100k.html
For more info read this long thread in the RX forum about changing your ATF. It mostly covers doing a simple drain and fill as opposed to a fluid exchange. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/rx-...hreads-37.html
Then see this youtube channel from a Toyota Master Tech who explains how to change the ATF, as do many others on youtube. He shows how to check the level without a temp. scanner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRxSu4-4ojo&t=21s
However your fluid level is so screwed up you need to follow the Toyota/Lexus temperature based procedure or the one shown by a Toyota Tech on youtube
I'm pretty sure another way I could do this is just drain. if more than 3 qts come out, than then just put 3 only back in. that jives up with what I saw on my first drain and what he found over here.
https://www.clublexus.com/forums/es-...with-pics.html