Extramove

I have a 2008 Lexus ES350 and today went to Mr Lube (Canada) to get my wheels changed for the winter ones(aftermarket rims).

My stock rims are 17x7, 5x114.3. The aftermarket ones are 17x8, 5x114.3 et35.
Guys at Mr Lube said they don't fit but didn't properly explain why. Are they a bit too wide because of that 1 inch and require spacers?

Can someone please explain me what do I need to install them, please. It's my first car and I'm not well-educated in such matters.

Thank you.

Clutchless

Do you have tires already installed on the wheels? If so, what size are they? The tire size may be the problem. 8 inch wheels should fit with no problem. I put 8 inch wheels on my RX which is the same chassis.

Use the tire rim calculator to work it out. https://www.clublexus.com/forums/tir...calculator.php

Then try this one which shows suspension interference https://www.wheel-size.com/calc/

The specs appear to indicate it would fit without rubbing. I think others have installed larger wheels. Try some searching here for wheels, or tires etc to learn more.
You may want to try a different shop.

Extramove

Thanks for the reply.
They didn't fit so I asked to put the tires on my oem 17x7 rims and everything was good.
I did some reading and now believe that they may not fit because they are 1” wider + the offset et35, which if I'm correct has the connection closer the outside, so the tires go deeper in. I could use spacers then?

Clutchless

Yes you could use spacers.
I would get the same ones I use on my RX. Made by H&R in Germany. The 25mm (about an inch) ones are DRM 5065600. They bolt to your hub with their nuts and then you use your wheel nuts to attach your wheels. Be sure to use a torque wrench and the factory setting is 76 pounds although I just use 80 pounds. The suspension and hubs, brakes etc are the same on the ES and RX. And the Highlander, Sienna and Camry. All of their wheels are interchangeable.

​​​​​​https://trakplus.com/results
https://www.carid.com/hr/silver-trak...n-5065600.html

Extramove

Very useful reply. Thank you, sir.

Extramove

hey, I’ve been thinking that guys at that shop probably confused something. The oem es350 2008 rims are 17x7 45mm offset. The ones I want to put are 17x8 35mm offset. Calculators say it’s gonna be just 3mm closer inside. It doesn’t seem like they wouldn’t fit. Maybe different bolts are needed or something, what do you think?

Clutchless

The wheel studs have nothing to do with it. It is all about suspension clearance. Use the wheel size calculators I listed in post 2.

Extramove

Yes, I did so. It said they will stick out like 12mm and be closer to suspension 3mm. There's no need for spacers. I also now figured out that center bore on my oem wheels is 60.1mm and on these other ones is 71mm. That's probably what they said the wheels don't fit. But I know some people use wheels with bigger bore center and add proper rings to fill that gap, could I do same?

Clutchless

That was the problem. You have to use adapter rings. I used them once on a Honda many years ago. It made the wheels a little more difficult to balance, but maybe they were crap rings. I bought the wheels and rings on craigslist.

Yes you can buy hub bore adapter rings.
These are 71.5 to 60.1
Are the wheels marked 71mm? I mostly see 71.5mm or 71.6mm.
​​​​​​https://us.hubcentric-rings.com/sizes/?src=intpopup
https://www.uswheeladapters.com/hub-centric-rings/

Extramove

Either of them. I have a measuring tape in inches only. I'll go this Saturday to Candian Tire and ask them about adapters. I don't see any measurements that would indicate. Also, my original bolts must fit or it can also possibly be an issue?

You've been so helpful.

Clutchless

Your original nuts may or may not fit (seat properly on the new wheels) it depends on the angle in the hole on the aftermarket wheels. Remove one bolt and test fit it. Once you know the brand and model of the wheels the manufacturer site or a sales site will be able to advise about the proper nuts. (Edited to change bolts to nuts)

Extramove

They are called nut lugs, right?

Clutchless

Yes, lug nuts, wheel nuts etc. I said bolts but meant nuts. I also have a BMW which uses wheel bolts and sometimes mix up the terminology.

Extramove

Thank you. I asked because I don't know all that terminology. Hopefully the last question. It's not a problem going to 35mm offset from 45mm, is it?

Clutchless

Nope, that will make no difference in anything.
Time to become an educated car owner.
Read some the wheel and tire technology articles on this link to Tire Rack
https://www.tirerack.com/tires/tiret...ch.jsp?tab=All