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Next-Gen Lexus ES (ES350 and ES300h confirmed)

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Old 02-22-12 | 12:19 AM
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I don't see the big fuss in this car. It's not going to take away sales from the GS. The ES has always sold more anyway, hasn't it? The people who buy Lexus' would know the difference between an ES and a GS. They don't look that much alike either. In fact I thought the GS next to it was an IS, I think it looks better and more sporty. But the wheels are too small on both cars. The front grille does have that CRZ type feel going on as well. If the hood just went down to the grille I think it'd look better.
Old 02-22-12 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Trexus
I have a feeling this might be the 6ES...only Lexus knows and a few CL members.



It appears I was correct that the picture at the top is the 6ES...wooohooo...
Old 02-22-12 | 12:54 AM
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Originally Posted by natnut
If I was a driving enthusiast, I would get the GS350. If I wanted a smooth plushy ride, I would get an ES250.

Seems like the GS250 will be an endangered species : It will probably be more expensive than an ES250, have a more uncomfortable ride and have less front and rear room. And I doubt anyone looking at a 2.5L engine in a mid-size sedan is prioritising sportiness...
I wouldn't be so sure about that, at least here in Europe where most people use to carry on lower engines because of the high taxes and petrol price.

2.5 liter petrol engine it's pretty decent really.
Old 02-22-12 | 02:15 AM
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Originally Posted by modernx

based on the side-by-side photos, I'll say that the GS still looks more sporty and aggressive.
Old 02-22-12 | 02:19 AM
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Very nice, I love it. I think it's gonna be a great replacement to the current gen ES
Old 02-22-12 | 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Mr. Burns
Maybe this whole new direction wasn't such a bad idea after all. Both are looking good, and you can really tell they're both Lexuses now
yep... looking good lexus... spindle grille pretty much great refresh of 2012... not just for the all new cars, but it gave new dimension to the look of RX and LX so far as well.
Old 02-22-12 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by gray_es300
Im just browsing other message boards and most people hate this car. I think its just a stigma that will forever be attached to this car calling it a camry. I know looks are subjective and at most this car is bland (which i think its not) i think its actually quite attractive. I feel like people who drive (mainly bmw's" just dog lexus in general. Never understood why people called cars ****ty online, its a simple matter of not liking it, then don't buy it
they dont hate this car, they hate the brand... i read from many forum members on other boards how interior is awful and bad quality... and thats something constantly said in the forums about lexus, reality is really different - this ES seems to have more leather than 5 series and A6.

reviews have a lot to do with it too - european mags always put in mandatory line "interior not up to european competition standards", which is simply not true. For instance, CTh was often writen about as not up to A3 or 1 series, simply not true - same goes for IS vs A4, not true.

I was looking at A4's and A6's (3 year olds), and when I entered European IS, with semi-aniline leather, I was wowed.

So there is this stigma on the boards that has nothing to do with reality at all. it was always there and it probably will always be there, especially for those people who have never experienced lexus personally.
Old 02-22-12 | 04:39 AM
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This new ES will look better in person and in better quality photos as well. For sure, it is a step up in comparison to the current ES, in particular the interior.
Old 02-22-12 | 04:40 AM
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There is now a bit of a Lexus signature in the tail lights
Old 02-22-12 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by natnut
based on the side-by-side photos, I'll say that the GS still looks more sporty and aggressive.
Odd the front hood line design is different on the GS.Can't see why the hood line is the way it is on the ES.The ES front hood line is odd and just doesn't look right.
Old 02-22-12 | 07:07 AM
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Looks fantastic so far (this new and upcoming ES). Btw, the rear has some kind of styling that you see in that upcoming Fusion/Mondeo from Ford. A really nice touch imho.

Oh and

The ES featured here surprisingly has better wheels than the GS F-sport with the stupid looking tuning fork wheels





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Old 02-22-12 | 07:29 AM
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I need to see the car in person, or at least some better pictures. To my eye the grill looks overdone as does the chrome strip thing on the trunk lid. I'm hoping some of the trim pieces will be a little different on the model sold in the U.S. Hard to tell about the dash but I'm guessing it will look well done in person.
Old 02-22-12 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by cino
If it doesn't say ES on the plate, I wouldn't believe it is a Lexus ES. It looks like RWD 4door coupe. Why? Lexus Why? What have you done to GS?
and this is a problem, why? maybe you mean they've made the ES look 'too good' ?

Originally Posted by Lextrician
I just hope they dont try to integrate the newer approach towards all of the cars....
lol, that's exactly what they're doing! that's a good move for branding.
Old 02-22-12 | 08:42 AM
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Very nice!

Tail lights are better than the GS's. GS doesn't look as good as it did 2 days ago, lol.
Old 02-22-12 | 09:04 AM
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wow, the 6ES is gorgeous, much much better looking than the 5ES.



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