New Model Problems?
10-23-12, 06:07 PM
#16
Driver School Candidate
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Ky
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have a 2013 es300h. The enform app quit working when I upgraded to a iPhone 5 with IOS6. It crashes when invoked on the phone (creates a crash record on the phone). No updates yet in the App Store.
10-24-12, 12:56 PM
#17
Driver School Candidate
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Kansas
Posts: 3
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have now tried my 2013 ES 350 in all three driving modes and find that the transmission downshifts between 35 and 40 in all three modes. I like the car otherwise, just find the downshift inappropriate as I would expect the car to coast when I take my foot off the gas pedal.
10-25-12, 04:20 AM
#19
Rookie
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: Ontario
Posts: 89
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That's right, someone else pointed that out to me in another thread.
No downshifting, no kickdown, which are the reasons I have always timid about buying a hybrid. I've never been an aggressive driver, and I'm certainly not about to become one at 64. But I had to near road mishaps in my life that would have resulted in either death or very serious injuries, both of which were avoided by being able to get out of the way quickly. That's the thing that scares the hell out of me with hybrids, not being able to get out of harm's way. Sure, I'd like the fuel economy too, but ...
HTH.
No downshifting, no kickdown, which are the reasons I have always timid about buying a hybrid. I've never been an aggressive driver, and I'm certainly not about to become one at 64. But I had to near road mishaps in my life that would have resulted in either death or very serious injuries, both of which were avoided by being able to get out of the way quickly. That's the thing that scares the hell out of me with hybrids, not being able to get out of harm's way. Sure, I'd like the fuel economy too, but ...
HTH.
10-25-12, 06:39 AM
#20
Pole Position
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: select state
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I think the improved handling would lend itself of getting out of the way quickly, along with the extra torque that the electric engine provides. A useful test would be comparison of 40-60 instead of 0-60mph. But I'm not a car person so I'm not sure how much of a difference the torque makes
10-25-12, 06:49 AM
#21
Driver School Candidate
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: FL
Posts: 37
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That's right, someone else pointed that out to me in another thread.
No downshifting, no kickdown, which are the reasons I have always timid about buying a hybrid. I've never been an aggressive driver, and I'm certainly not about to become one at 64. But I had to near road mishaps in my life that would have resulted in either death or very serious injuries, both of which were avoided by being able to get out of the way quickly. That's the thing that scares the hell out of me with hybrids, not being able to get out of harm's way. Sure, I'd like the fuel economy too, but ...
HTH.
No downshifting, no kickdown, which are the reasons I have always timid about buying a hybrid. I've never been an aggressive driver, and I'm certainly not about to become one at 64. But I had to near road mishaps in my life that would have resulted in either death or very serious injuries, both of which were avoided by being able to get out of the way quickly. That's the thing that scares the hell out of me with hybrids, not being able to get out of harm's way. Sure, I'd like the fuel economy too, but ...
HTH.
10-25-12, 07:39 AM
#22
Driver
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: ny
Posts: 105
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
In the sport mode it feels even better.
10-25-12, 07:41 AM
#24
Driver School Candidate
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: TX
Posts: 8
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
For what it is worth ES330 vs. EH300
FWIW I traded a 2005 ES330 for the EH300...The EH is quicker on accelaration and is better handling therefore better in quick avoidance manuevers.
10-25-12, 08:43 AM
#25
Lexus Fanatic
That's right, someone else pointed that out to me in another thread.
No downshifting, no kickdown, which are the reasons I have always timid about buying a hybrid. I've never been an aggressive driver, and I'm certainly not about to become one at 64. But I had to near road mishaps in my life that would have resulted in either death or very serious injuries, both of which were avoided by being able to get out of the way quickly. That's the thing that scares the hell out of me with hybrids, not being able to get out of harm's way. Sure, I'd like the fuel economy too, but ...
HTH.
No downshifting, no kickdown, which are the reasons I have always timid about buying a hybrid. I've never been an aggressive driver, and I'm certainly not about to become one at 64. But I had to near road mishaps in my life that would have resulted in either death or very serious injuries, both of which were avoided by being able to get out of the way quickly. That's the thing that scares the hell out of me with hybrids, not being able to get out of harm's way. Sure, I'd like the fuel economy too, but ...
HTH.
I personally don't like CVTs just because I dont like the way the power is delivered, or the way they cause the engine to drone, but from a safety perspective there is no issue.
10-25-12, 09:59 AM
#26
Pole Position
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: select state
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have a 09 Camry hybrid with cvt and test driving the es300h in sport mode made me swear. It threw me back into the seat when I pressed on the accelerator going from 30 to 50. The salesperson chuckled
10-25-12, 10:56 AM
#27
Lexus Champion
Lexus estimates a 0-60 time of 7.1 seconds for the ES350 and 8.1 on the hybrid. I thought they might be a little closer.
Both are probably estimated on the conservative side.
Both are probably estimated on the conservative side.
10-26-12, 04:25 PM
#28
Rookie
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: FL
Posts: 65
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I also purchased one of the first 2007 ES350's with every option available. I filed a lemon law complaint after numerous attempts to fix the pre-collision radar cruise control. They did fix it and gave me a platinum warranty for my troubles. I will wait until next year so things can shake out. However, the 2007 was a radical change. The 2013 is a minor change and very disappointing.
