Transmission shifting and frequency, long term
#1
Transmission shifting and frequency, long term
I am coming from a 2001 Acura CL-S which is a 5 speed automatic, and that car wouldnt' change gears that quickly. I understand cars today change gears frequently to be in the best gear for fuel efficiency?
But I feel like my ES350 changes gears so much, even at the slightest speed change. Is this normal -perhaps it's because I haven't driven a new car since my 2001, 12 years ago! Even the slightest press on the pedal will downshift the car and into the lower gear, even on ECO setting. On my Acura, pressing lightly on the accel pedal didn't result in a lower gear, as I know the engine had more than enough torque.
I also love reliability, and this makes me think the transmission would have a shorter life span with all the shifting. I still haven't asked my dealer about how often to do tranny fluid changes (which I know is a different thread altogether about discussions about "lifetime" fluid).
But I feel like my ES350 changes gears so much, even at the slightest speed change. Is this normal -perhaps it's because I haven't driven a new car since my 2001, 12 years ago! Even the slightest press on the pedal will downshift the car and into the lower gear, even on ECO setting. On my Acura, pressing lightly on the accel pedal didn't result in a lower gear, as I know the engine had more than enough torque.
I also love reliability, and this makes me think the transmission would have a shorter life span with all the shifting. I still haven't asked my dealer about how often to do tranny fluid changes (which I know is a different thread altogether about discussions about "lifetime" fluid).
#2
I am coming from a 2001 Acura CL-S which is a 5 speed automatic, and that car wouldnt' change gears that quickly. I understand cars today change gears frequently to be in the best gear for fuel efficiency?
But I feel like my ES350 changes gears so much, even at the slightest speed change. Is this normal -perhaps it's because I haven't driven a new car since my 2001, 12 years ago! Even the slightest press on the pedal will downshift the car and into the lower gear, even on ECO setting. On my Acura, pressing lightly on the accel pedal didn't result in a lower gear, as I know the engine had more than enough torque.
I also love reliability, and this makes me think the transmission would have a shorter life span with all the shifting. I still haven't asked my dealer about how often to do tranny fluid changes (which I know is a different thread altogether about discussions about "lifetime" fluid).
But I feel like my ES350 changes gears so much, even at the slightest speed change. Is this normal -perhaps it's because I haven't driven a new car since my 2001, 12 years ago! Even the slightest press on the pedal will downshift the car and into the lower gear, even on ECO setting. On my Acura, pressing lightly on the accel pedal didn't result in a lower gear, as I know the engine had more than enough torque.
I also love reliability, and this makes me think the transmission would have a shorter life span with all the shifting. I still haven't asked my dealer about how often to do tranny fluid changes (which I know is a different thread altogether about discussions about "lifetime" fluid).
#3
The 6 speed transmission in your ES 350 has no known excessive wear issue, unilke your previous CL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_C...ssion_concerns which was apparently rife with clutch/transmission issues.
#4
But I feel like my ES350 changes gears so much, even at the slightest speed change. Is this normal -perhaps it's because I haven't driven a new car since my 2001, 12 years ago! Even the slightest press on the pedal will downshift the car and into the lower gear, even on ECO setting.
With one exception. If I am driving along local roads with 40 mph speed (which is common) and slow down to about 35 mph the transmission rapidly downshifts and then upshifts hunting for the right in your mind speed. That is annoying. I am going to ask my service adviser if it is possible to reprogram the transmission to fix it.
#5
The 6 speed transmission in your ES 350 has no known excessive wear issue, unilke your previous CL http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acura_C...ssion_concerns which was apparently rife with clutch/transmission issues.
#6
I personally almost do not feel when the transmission changes gears. Very smooth operation!
With one exception. If I am driving along local roads with 40 mph speed (which is common) and slow down to about 35 mph the transmission rapidly downshifts and then upshifts hunting for the right in your mind speed. That is annoying. I am going to ask my service adviser if it is possible to reprogram the transmission to fix it.
With one exception. If I am driving along local roads with 40 mph speed (which is common) and slow down to about 35 mph the transmission rapidly downshifts and then upshifts hunting for the right in your mind speed. That is annoying. I am going to ask my service adviser if it is possible to reprogram the transmission to fix it.
#7
We replaced a 2003 Acura TL with our new ES. The TL was known for the same transmission issues as your CL. We lost our first transmission at 65K miles. Supposedly the replacement model was a corrected design, but I never trusted Honda/Acura after that.
One of the reasons we went with the ES was BECAUSE of the transmission. With automatics up to 9 and higher speeds now, a "simple" 6 speed auto was our best bet. It also helps its been used forever in Toyota/Lexus land (along with the engine its attached to).....definitely a positive to us.
After driving the car for 1K miles I have to say I like the fact that its very transparent: it doesn't really make itself known. it just does what its supposed to, when its supposed to. No, it wont win any drag races, but thats not what an ES is for anyway.
One of the reasons we went with the ES was BECAUSE of the transmission. With automatics up to 9 and higher speeds now, a "simple" 6 speed auto was our best bet. It also helps its been used forever in Toyota/Lexus land (along with the engine its attached to).....definitely a positive to us.
After driving the car for 1K miles I have to say I like the fact that its very transparent: it doesn't really make itself known. it just does what its supposed to, when its supposed to. No, it wont win any drag races, but thats not what an ES is for anyway.
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#8
Alpinefun: I have the same annoying behavior with my 2014 ES. At 35-40 the car pulls back during a momentary downshift and then upshifts back to a "less-drag" ride. My question is whether your Lexus dealer had an impact on this behavior? And has anyone else had this issue and had it successfully addressed by Lexus?
My other cars have either a manual tranny or a CVT, so I find the shifting of the Lexus a bit unusual
#9
I'll probably do a drain and refill at 50K miles, which will make it a 7 yr old car, since I only do about 7K miles a year.
#11
I personally almost do not feel when the transmission changes gears. Very smooth operation!
With one exception. If I am driving along local roads with 40 mph speed (which is common) and slow down to about 35 mph the transmission rapidly downshifts and then upshifts hunting for the right in your mind speed. That is annoying. I am going to ask my service adviser if it is possible to reprogram the transmission to fix it.
With one exception. If I am driving along local roads with 40 mph speed (which is common) and slow down to about 35 mph the transmission rapidly downshifts and then upshifts hunting for the right in your mind speed. That is annoying. I am going to ask my service adviser if it is possible to reprogram the transmission to fix it.
Last edited by airgas1998; 09-22-15 at 04:49 PM.
#12
yes...this is the common "hang up" zone, and is strictly software related. a work around is to set it on the eco setting this will force it into the overdrive gear. you good also shift into manual mode. very doubtful the techs are going to reprogram the shift points, without mother Toyota approval if within the power train warranty.
#13
I am also noticing this in eco mode on my new ES. Hunts the gear. Also seems to engage clutch when coasting as rpms will drop way down and then come back up with a tiny bit of throttle.
I assume this is all normal but any updates some this last post 3.5 years ago?
I assume this is all normal but any updates some this last post 3.5 years ago?
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