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My dealer informed me that the 2015 ES300h has a remote start, but only if it is activated initially, which is another $1000. If you dont activate it this way, it will be a yearly subscription fee. Does that make any sense?
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There are many owners/members that have the system that can start the car either by the key Fob or a smartphone. This requires a monthly fee. Then there's a system that uses only the key fob. This has no monthly fee. The last time I checked the cost for both installed - at my dealer - was $700.00. I believe that this price is exorbitant and went searching for an alternative. I found a system that utilizes the Lexus key fob - no extra remote is required - for $350. installed. Works identical to the factory remote start. I think that your dealer is blowing smoke at you and I would ask for more specifics. Call a couple of other dealers and ask what they want for the same system.
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To the OP. I don't see the Lexus Enform Remote as a stand alone option, only included with the Nav/ML audio package. If your dealer wants to add that to a lower package for $1k, and you really want it, I would just upgrade and get all three options for $2,700. You'll still have a monthly fee for the smartphone app, though.
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If the car has the Lexus enform remote, does that mean you get an FOB that can remote start the car? Or is the dealer installed unit different from the enform remote?
I think I got it. The lexus enform remote is actually an app for the smart phones, but is NOT an fob. The dealer installed unit will work with the fob on the car keys, is that correct? Does this mean that I have to install an additional unit to get the fob to remote start the car?
I think I got it. The lexus enform remote is actually an app for the smart phones, but is NOT an fob. The dealer installed unit will work with the fob on the car keys, is that correct? Does this mean that I have to install an additional unit to get the fob to remote start the car?
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The one system includes the factory fob and YOUR smartphone. You can use either/or to start the car. The other system uses only your factory fob to start the car remotely. No smartphone. This information alludes to Lexus factory systems - no aftermarket jobbies. So if your dealer is trying to sell you an aftermarket system for $1000.00, I'd find another dealer...
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I can start my RC 350 F Sport with the key fob. I paid nothing for it, it is not listed on the sticker, and I just found it by fooling around. The enform remote only works 1 out of 3 times and is very slow. However I can start it from anywhere.
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Welcome! I'm sure you'll find lots of info in the RC section of the forums.
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The one system includes the factory fob and YOUR smartphone. You can use either/or to start the car. The other system uses only your factory fob to start the car remotely. No smartphone. This information alludes to Lexus factory systems - no aftermarket jobbies. So if your dealer is trying to sell you an aftermarket system for $1000.00, I'd find another dealer...
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Then forget the smartphone. You can have the Lexus factory remote start installed by your dealer that utilizes only your factory key fob, or an aftermarket system for less money that also uses your factory key fob. Neither requires a monthly fee.
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What I'm trying to determine is if the factory remote start needs to have the annual subscription cost. If the answer is yes, then the dealer installed remote start is what I want. I just don't want to pay money for an item that I already have....
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Smartphone = monthly fee. No smartphone = no monthly fee. Start car with smartphone OR fob= monthly fee.
Start car with fob only= no monthly fee. Both systems can be installed by dealer. Both systems are factory remote start systems. It is your choice.
Start car with fob only= no monthly fee. Both systems can be installed by dealer. Both systems are factory remote start systems. It is your choice.
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So to clarify, does this mean that if the dealer installs the remote start, then I can use the FOB to start the car, without having to pay the annual cost? I can't seem to find definitive answer to my question (which is probably because I'm not clear enough).
What I'm trying to determine is if the factory remote start needs to have the annual subscription cost. If the answer is yes, then the dealer installed remote start is what I want. I just don't want to pay money for an item that I already have....
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What I'm trying to determine is if the factory remote start needs to have the annual subscription cost. If the answer is yes, then the dealer installed remote start is what I want. I just don't want to pay money for an item that I already have....
Thanks
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Maybe this will help explain:
http://www.lexus.com/enform/
Quite a few models include Lexus Enform Remote (LER) from the factory. With the ES, it has to have Navigation. You do not need Mark Levinson. It's a telematics system built into the car from the factory. Once activated, LER will work from your smartphone AND key fob. It's free for one year. After the first year, it's an additional fee and you have to be enrolled in Safety Connect in order to have LER. So after the first year it's $220 a year for Safety Connect and LER.
Lexus does have an add on Remote Engine Start (RES) system that has to be installed into the car at the dealer. There is an upfront cost for this system but not annual charges. This only works with the key fob. Officially it isn't technically offered for cars with LER. However, as you can see some people have installed this system on top of LER.
http://www.lexus.com/enform/
Quite a few models include Lexus Enform Remote (LER) from the factory. With the ES, it has to have Navigation. You do not need Mark Levinson. It's a telematics system built into the car from the factory. Once activated, LER will work from your smartphone AND key fob. It's free for one year. After the first year, it's an additional fee and you have to be enrolled in Safety Connect in order to have LER. So after the first year it's $220 a year for Safety Connect and LER.
Lexus does have an add on Remote Engine Start (RES) system that has to be installed into the car at the dealer. There is an upfront cost for this system but not annual charges. This only works with the key fob. Officially it isn't technically offered for cars with LER. However, as you can see some people have installed this system on top of LER.
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Maybe this will help explain:
http://www.lexus.com/enform/
Quite a few models include Lexus Enform Remote (LER) from the factory. With the ES, it has to have Navigation. You do not need Mark Levinson. It's a telematics system built into the car from the factory. Once activated, LER will work from your smartphone AND key fob. It's free for one year. After the first year, it's an additional fee and you have to be enrolled in Safety Connect in order to have LER. So after the first year it's $220 a year for Safety Connect and LER.
Lexus does have an add on Remote Engine Start (RES) system that has to be installed into the car at the dealer. There is an upfront cost for this system but not annual charges. This only works with the key fob. Officially it isn't technically offered for cars with LER. However, as you can see some people have installed this system on top of LER.
http://www.lexus.com/enform/
Quite a few models include Lexus Enform Remote (LER) from the factory. With the ES, it has to have Navigation. You do not need Mark Levinson. It's a telematics system built into the car from the factory. Once activated, LER will work from your smartphone AND key fob. It's free for one year. After the first year, it's an additional fee and you have to be enrolled in Safety Connect in order to have LER. So after the first year it's $220 a year for Safety Connect and LER.
Lexus does have an add on Remote Engine Start (RES) system that has to be installed into the car at the dealer. There is an upfront cost for this system but not annual charges. This only works with the key fob. Officially it isn't technically offered for cars with LER. However, as you can see some people have installed this system on top of LER.