Need New Tires
10-29-15, 06:55 PM
#16
Anyone ever run Continentals?
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10-29-15, 07:13 PM
#17
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I have Continentals OEM on our Sedona and I'm not much of a fan...
10-30-15, 03:19 PM
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Anyone ever run Continentals?
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11-04-15, 10:05 AM
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Michelin period. I have had just about every other brand in addition to Michelin and the Michelin have been the most consistent in terms of quality. The MXV4's are the quietest tire I have ever owned and we had them on three of our cars including the ES350.
11-04-15, 10:22 AM
#21
I agree on the Primacy MXV4. Great tire for quiet and cush and a perfect match for this car....BUT...it's been discontinued..which is a huge mistake by Michelin. It's being replaced by a louder, stiffer, but more grippy tire, the Premiere A/S. There's still some MXV4 stock around in some sizes, but the concern I understood was that if then you later need one from a road hazard or such, you'd have no availability of same tire and then would have to mix and match or replace more, and the current stock is spotty and has to be shipped. With that in mind, Michelin doesn't have a great option right now. unless someone knows of something I missed, even Michelin loyalists are scrambling for a better, quieter solution.
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11-04-15, 10:30 AM
#22
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I think the two tires that are the best option out there for fans of the MXV4 are:
Pirelli Cinturato P7 Plus
Toyo Versado Noir
I put the Toyos on my GS and liked them, the Pirellis have a lot more reviews because they're more widely available. I emailed TreadDepot who carries both tires and asked their opinion, this was the response:
Thats exactly what my independent tire dealer said. On the GS I got the Toyos because they were out of the Pirellis, and I actually took a buddy last week over there to get a set of the Pirellis on his Accord and they were again out, and he got the Toyos. They're nice on his car, bearing in mind Accords are VERY loud.
The crux of my concern is just the relatively little information out there about the Toyos vs the huge amount of overwhelmingly positive info about the Pirellis...
Still deciding what I'm going to do.
Pirelli Cinturato P7 Plus
Toyo Versado Noir
I put the Toyos on my GS and liked them, the Pirellis have a lot more reviews because they're more widely available. I emailed TreadDepot who carries both tires and asked their opinion, this was the response:
Good morning Steve,
I can honestly say you aren’t going to go wrong with either tire. Both are premium lines that will give you an excellent ride and low noise. Between the two, the Pirelli has slightly better light snow traction (if that’s important), a little bit better dry traction, and it’s still a lower rolling resistance tire. Downside is some people think it’s a little bit louder, but I’ve driven cars with them and didn’t think that was the case at all. The Toyo’s will offer a slightly better ride and are a little quieter, but you do lose a little bit of mileage warranty over the Pirelli. I’d go with the Toyo if noise and ride are more important and the Pirelli if you want better handling. Again, both are excellent choices for your LS and you’re really only talking minor differences between them. If you have any questions please feel free to give me a call or shoot me an email!
Andrew
I can honestly say you aren’t going to go wrong with either tire. Both are premium lines that will give you an excellent ride and low noise. Between the two, the Pirelli has slightly better light snow traction (if that’s important), a little bit better dry traction, and it’s still a lower rolling resistance tire. Downside is some people think it’s a little bit louder, but I’ve driven cars with them and didn’t think that was the case at all. The Toyo’s will offer a slightly better ride and are a little quieter, but you do lose a little bit of mileage warranty over the Pirelli. I’d go with the Toyo if noise and ride are more important and the Pirelli if you want better handling. Again, both are excellent choices for your LS and you’re really only talking minor differences between them. If you have any questions please feel free to give me a call or shoot me an email!
Andrew
The crux of my concern is just the relatively little information out there about the Toyos vs the huge amount of overwhelmingly positive info about the Pirellis...
Still deciding what I'm going to do.
11-04-15, 11:55 AM
#23
I agree on the Primacy MXV4. Great tire for quiet and cush and a perfect match for this car....BUT...it's been discontinued..which is a huge mistake by Michelin. It's being replaced by a louder, stiffer, but more grippy tire, the Premiere A/S. There's still some MXV4 stock around in some sizes, but the concern I understood was that if then you later need one from a road hazard or such, you'd have no availability of same tire and then would have to mix and match or replace more, and the current stock is spotty and has to be shipped. With that in mind, Michelin doesn't have a great option right now. unless someone knows of something I missed, even Michelin loyalists are scrambling for a better, quieter solution.
http://www.michelinman.com/US/en/tir...s-and-versions
11-04-15, 03:30 PM
#25
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Michelin is not the only company that makes good tires guys lol. In fact, they have several lines that are aggressively mediocre.
11-04-15, 05:38 PM
#26
Looking through older posts (I've learned how to search forums better), I saw you had the Versados on your GS, did you have a chance to try Lexus on the P7s? A friend has them on his Buick, and they seem to be pretty planted feeling and quiet.
11-04-15, 05:45 PM
#27
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My old 03 ES is still in the family and it has the P7s on it, they replaced the Primacy MXV4 and they seem very quiet.
11-04-15, 05:51 PM
#28
That's cool. That it's still in the family, and good results. If had to speculate between Versado and P7 or even MXV4 if could find, knowing this would be on and LS or ES, neither going to be a corner carving type machine, what you you go with for quiet/cush? Thanks in advance. Have read many helpful posts from you.
11-04-15, 06:14 PM
#29
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It's a tough call, and exactly the decision I'm going through. I would lean towards the P7 only because there is so much data out there about them...
No problem, happy to help!
No problem, happy to help!
11-13-15, 08:24 PM
#30
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I bought the Michelin defenders about a week and a half ago. I couldn't resist the 90K miles that Consumer Reports says they actually get. I don't notice any road noise, but after about 6-700 miles, I have noticed about a 6-8% drop in gas mileage. It could be just that they have more tread on them and the tire is bigger around, but it's kind of a bummer to average 41+ MPG and have it drop to about 38-.