pab12

I replaced the tires on the '13 ES this weekend (17" Pirelli Cinturato) and the service advisor told me that I'll need front brakes soon (at ~30k miles).
Does the ES use the same front brakes as the Avalon and would having my local wrench use Toyota parts save me any $ v.s., him ordering them from the Lexus dealer?
The local garage that works on both my cars always uses OEM parts. That way he knows that they will always fit and be correct and for the minor difference in price I don't object to that.
However, since there could be a price difference between Lexus and Toyota parts I figure it might be worth it to check.
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bc6152

Look up the part numbers and a lot of times they will just be Toyota part numbers used on several cars...

pab12

>Look up the part numbers and a lot of times they will just be Toyota part numbers used on several cars...
But would the part numbers be cross referenced?
Can you check regular GM listings for common parts for your 'vette?
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bc6152

GM uses parts for periods of 25 years in some instances... Same alternator from 1965 to 1985. V8's get V8 parts, 6 cylinder cars get what they require. A Corvette is just a Chevvy with a V8 engine...Just sayin' check it out and maybe you can cross reference the part... My guess would be that the brakes are different... You can also just ask the parts man...

pab12

Sorry, no snark intended. Just wondering about the old stories of 'vette owners getting shafted on parts prices, where the exact same Chevy part is used but it got a vette specific part number with accompanying "special" price.
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jgscott

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Maikerusan

Interesting. I guess I just assumed since based on Avalon that the pads would be the same. Guess I can forget about bringing it to my local Toyota dealer for brake work.

lesz

Even if the Lexus part is not the same as the Toyota part, the Toyota dealer can still get Lexus parts.

Maikerusan

Yes, I know that but it's hardly worth the hassle then. I get same Lexus part price and the Toyota dealer is not that much cheaper than Lexus in my neck of the woods.

jgscott

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I did not check the Front pads though. They may or may not be the same?

Albo

Sucks having the Toyota dealer and lexus dealer right next door to each other and owned by the same company.

BradTank

Just FYI, service advisors at dealerships are basically trained to constantly sell brake jobs whether you actually need them or not. I've experienced it first hand. It's a huge profit center.
So I would check myself if you have the ability. It's all about driving style, but I could easily see front brakes lasting 50k miles and could potentially get several more years out of them.

But to answer your question, I looked up a 2013 Avalon and a 2013 Es 350 and the aftermarket brake pads have the same part number. Any decent shop can easily do that job.

I've had really good luck with Wagner ceramic ThermoQuiet pads, my opinion is they are better than factory pads. I also like Centric Premium rotors.

jgscott

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I called a Lexus Dealer and a Toyota Dealer about the rear pad interchangeability of the Avalon to 13 ES. Both said No. So are you saying both Ft and Rear are same? Sometime Manufactures have Material Compound differences. Even tho they fit.

If they are all (Front and Rear) the same as Avalon's that's good to know. I personally only run Factory pads or Akebono Top of line pads. The Lexus Stock Pads I ordered were placed thru a Toyota Dealers at a few bucks less than Lexus wanted.

BradTank

I'm saying the part numbers for the aftermarket are the same both front and rear on the two different vehicles: 2013 Avalon and a 2013 ES 350. So there should be no problem interchanging them.

The part number I got for both the 2013 Avalon and ES 350
AKEBONO ACT1212 (rear)
AKEBONO ACT1222 (front)

Whether Lexus and Toyota internally has the same number or have the same exact compound is something I don't know. But the idea they won't "work" seems wrong from what I'm seeing. It would be like saying because the tires that come on an Avalon with 17" rims are a different compound or brand than the ones that come on an ES 350 with 17" rims, that they aren't compatible. In terms of dimensions, they should be the same

But a Toyota dealership may decide not to do it for a variety of reasons.
I like to do my own brakes, but an independent shop is usually a much better value than a dealership. I also prefer aftermarket ceramic pads.