Tires for a smoothy
#1
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Tires for a smoothy
My Fellow Lexonians,
I have 21k miles on a 2016 ES 350. Lexus dealer says I need new tires. What would be best if all you care about is a smooth ride in a pothole-heavy area?
I have Michelen Primacy tires on it now, and they're OK, but I wonder if there are better. I think they're 17 or 18 inches, I'm not sure.....
John L.
I have 21k miles on a 2016 ES 350. Lexus dealer says I need new tires. What would be best if all you care about is a smooth ride in a pothole-heavy area?
I have Michelen Primacy tires on it now, and they're OK, but I wonder if there are better. I think they're 17 or 18 inches, I'm not sure.....
John L.
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#2
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Pirelli Cinturato P7 All Season Plus... put these on my car about a year and a half ago and have been very happy with them... if you look into these, make sure you look at the tire with the Plus designation, as Pirelli makes another Cinturato P7 tire ( without the plus ). I was a little skeptical when I bought these as I have never owned a set of Pirelli's in my life ( and I'm 63 ) but so far I'm very pleased with these. btw, sorry about the font size... don't know why it's so large and can't figure out how to reduce it.
#3
Pole Position
Tire Rack has a new # 1 for the ES. It is the Vredestein Quatrac 5. Michelin Premier A/S is #2 and the Pirelli P7 Plus all season is #3. Don't think you could go wrong with any of these.
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Hi Poppa and Freds. I don't mind the large font. Are there different sizes? Cause everyone says like 17 inch is better than 18 or 19.
A lot of people have mentioned those Pirelli
I wish I could try them out before committing, but it's probably not possible.
Do you guys get your tires put on by your Lexus dealer, or just some tire company. I was thinking about Jack Williams Tire, here in NE Penn.
I guess the 'Tire Rack' is based on an overall rating? I literally only care about a smooth ride. I'm in an area with a huge pothole, rough road issue.
John L
A lot of people have mentioned those Pirelli
I wish I could try them out before committing, but it's probably not possible.
Do you guys get your tires put on by your Lexus dealer, or just some tire company. I was thinking about Jack Williams Tire, here in NE Penn.
I guess the 'Tire Rack' is based on an overall rating? I literally only care about a smooth ride. I'm in an area with a huge pothole, rough road issue.
John L
#5
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hmmmm, Vredestein Quatrac 5 has some pretty explicit comments about how smooth the ride is, however, it seems the Pirellis are more well-known. So
now I'm not sure which ones to go wirth. The Vredestiens are also more affordable......
now I'm not sure which ones to go wirth. The Vredestiens are also more affordable......
#6
Pirellis are a well known brand, the other one while it is #1 currently only has 28 reviews, while the Pirellis has over 850 reviews. I would say the Pirellis have proven themselves as the better tire. As for price difference, i'd rather spend more on a tire that is proven vs saving a little for a tire that hasn't been out that long.
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#8
Are you sure you really need new tires just because the dealer said so?
A quality set of tires should last way longer than 21k miles.
If you only got that out of them, you might want to see if Michelin has some sort of warranty and can prorate them for you. The Primacy's have a 55k mile warranty, but not sure if that applies to ones that came new on a car.
A quality set of tires should last way longer than 21k miles.
If you only got that out of them, you might want to see if Michelin has some sort of warranty and can prorate them for you. The Primacy's have a 55k mile warranty, but not sure if that applies to ones that came new on a car.
#9
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I didn't know that ! Yeh it seems a bit soon. I think he said it was like 4/32 or 3/32, something like that.
The lease is up in a year, and maybe they just want me to turn it back in w nice new tires on it. :-)
It does seem a bit funny, I'll check w Michelin, and also maybe just pull it into a tire place and see what they say.....
John L
The lease is up in a year, and maybe they just want me to turn it back in w nice new tires on it. :-)
It does seem a bit funny, I'll check w Michelin, and also maybe just pull it into a tire place and see what they say.....
John L
#10
I didn't know that ! Yeh it seems a bit soon. I think he said it was like 4/32 or 3/32, something like that.
The lease is up in a year, and maybe they just want me to turn it back in w nice new tires on it. :-)
It does seem a bit funny, I'll check w Michelin, and also maybe just pull it into a tire place and see what they say.....
John L
The lease is up in a year, and maybe they just want me to turn it back in w nice new tires on it. :-)
It does seem a bit funny, I'll check w Michelin, and also maybe just pull it into a tire place and see what they say.....
John L
#11
Lead Lap
Tires are illegal for use when they get below 2/32 of an inch. For me, I'm not comfortable with that little tread. I start to think about replacing tires at between 3/32 and 4/32, especially if we are going into winter.
#12
For a couple of dollars, you can buy a tire tread gauge at any auto parts store. Get one and measure the tread depth for yourself.
Tires are illegal for use when they get below 2/32 of an inch. For me, I'm not comfortable with that little tread. I start to think about replacing tires at between 3/32 and 4/32, especially if we are going into winter.
Tires are illegal for use when they get below 2/32 of an inch. For me, I'm not comfortable with that little tread. I start to think about replacing tires at between 3/32 and 4/32, especially if we are going into winter.
In my area it is this:
3. (1) Subject to subsection (2), a tire shall not be worn to the extent that in any two adjacent major grooves at three equally spaced intervals around the circumference of the tire,
(a) the tread wear indicators contact the road; or
(b) less than 1.5 millimetres of tread depth remains. (this is less than 2/32 of an inch)
#13
Lead Lap
Perhaps in Illinois, but not everywhere.
In my area it is this:
3. (1) Subject to subsection (2), a tire shall not be worn to the extent that in any two adjacent major grooves at three equally spaced intervals around the circumference of the tire,
(a) the tread wear indicators contact the road; or
(b) less than 1.5 millimetres of tread depth remains. (this is less than 2/32 of an inch)
In my area it is this:
3. (1) Subject to subsection (2), a tire shall not be worn to the extent that in any two adjacent major grooves at three equally spaced intervals around the circumference of the tire,
(a) the tread wear indicators contact the road; or
(b) less than 1.5 millimetres of tread depth remains. (this is less than 2/32 of an inch)
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16854703
From the above link. "Most states require a minimum of 2/32 of an inch (approximately 1.6 mm) of tread, but two require less, some have no requirements, and some defer to the federal criterion for commercial vehicle safety inspections. The requirement of 2/32 of an inch is consistent with the height of the tread-wear bars built in to passenger car tires sold in the United States, but the rationale for that requirement, or other existing requirements, is not clear. Recent research indicates that a minimum tread depth of 2/32 of an inch does not prevent significant loss of friction at highway speeds, even for minimally wet roadways. The research suggests that tires with less than 4/32 of an inch tread depth may lose approximately 50 percent of available friction in those circumstances, even before hydroplaning occurs."
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Hi Poppa and Freds. I don't mind the large font. Are there different sizes? Cause everyone says like 17 inch is better than 18 or 19.
A lot of people have mentioned those Pirelli
I wish I could try them out before committing, but it's probably not possible.
Do you guys get your tires put on by your Lexus dealer, or just some tire company. I was thinking about Jack Williams Tire, here in NE Penn.
I guess the 'Tire Rack' is based on an overall rating? I literally only care about a smooth ride. I'm in an area with a huge pothole, rough road issue.
John L
A lot of people have mentioned those Pirelli
I wish I could try them out before committing, but it's probably not possible.
Do you guys get your tires put on by your Lexus dealer, or just some tire company. I was thinking about Jack Williams Tire, here in NE Penn.
I guess the 'Tire Rack' is based on an overall rating? I literally only care about a smooth ride. I'm in an area with a huge pothole, rough road issue.
John L
Roland
#15
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unless I'm driving it so much differently than most other people....