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Old 05-29-18, 07:12 PM
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did I read somewhere that the new ES has the ability to link to the iPhone properly??
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Originally Posted by jamestpc
did I read somewhere that the new ES has the ability to link to the iPhone properly??
According to advertisements the 2019 ES will have Apple car play installed. No Android even though 3/4 of the world runs on Android... Figure that out...
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According to advertisements the 2019 ES will have Apple car play installed. No Android even though ¾ of the world runs on Android... Figure that out...
Likely several factors that led to that decision. Likely number one... In the Android area, there are way too many older os versions out there, each requiring more unique programming effort to maintain compatibility with. There are very few iPhone users who are not running a recent version of the OS. As of this April, 76+% were running IOS 11.
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I am not sure why, but Lexus is like BMW in this regard in that they do Apple CarPlay but not Android Auto.
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I am not sure why, but Lexus is like BMW in this regard in that they do Apple CarPlay but not Android Auto.
Supposedly has to do with how much data Apple CarPlay and Android Auto collect and presumably turn over to Apple and Google. Toyota has been able to come to an agreement with Apple but not (yet) with Google.
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Originally Posted by bc6152
According to advertisements the 2019 ES will have Apple car play installed. No Android even though 3/4 of the world runs on Android... Figure that out...
It’s just Toyota being their usual silly stubborn self. They claim Android Auto is a privacy risk due to it having access to certain vehicle operating parameters like reading engine RPM. I mean, really Toyota, who gives a $#!+ ?? Put up a disclaimer in the head unit display and let the user decide if it’s okay to use Android Auto given that it will be given access to operating parameters. If you (user) don’t want to then don’t use Android Auto. 99.9% of users could care less, and some car enthusiasts might specifically want to share those parameters with vehicle performance tracking apps.

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So I would hope that our pre-19 cars would have an update to reflect the new ability? no?
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Doubt it.
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Originally Posted by jamestpc
So I would hope that our pre-19 cars would have an update to reflect the new ability? no?
that would be awesome however doubt they would
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Originally Posted by jamestpc
So I would hope that our pre-19 cars would have an update to reflect the new ability? no?
I don’t think so. From what I understand, the 2019 infotainment system is built on an entirely new technology platform.
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From what I see since I bought my 2013 ES, Toyota doesn't offer backward updates. I wouldn't count on them updating the previous gen Lexus cars. Maybe some company will offer an aftermarket tool to enable these features. I plan on buying a '19 but use Android exclusively so looks like I'm screwed...
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Originally Posted by bc6152
From what I see since I bought my 2013 ES, Toyota doesn't offer backward updates. I wouldn't count on them updating the previous gen Lexus cars. Maybe some company will offer an aftermarket tool to enable these features. I plan on buying a '19 but use Android exclusively so looks like I'm screwed...
I believe there is a capability to update the infotainment system but in the 6th generation line only the 2015 has had such an update released.

That said, I see a no chance of Lexus offering an update on the 6th generation to ever enable Car Play or Android Auto as the technology platform doesn’t support it.

The latest generation of Lexus and Toyota vehicles introduced in 2019 use Ford’s SmartDeviceLink technology to enable integration with external devices and other advanced capabilities.
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There may be hope for our ES. Mazda has made available software and new usb hardware for the MX-5
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