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Old 10-08-20, 07:11 PM
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Default Thinking of getting staggered rims on ES350

I know its not recommended but I found a nice set of genesis coupe rims (2013). The front are 225/40/19 and rear 245/40/19 and I believe thats 8 and 8.5. I read that since the diameter of the wheels are the same its not as big an issue, since the only difference is the back tires and rim are a bit wider. Also the rear tires are done, so I could even put 235 on the rear rims. What do you guys think?

These are the rims
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Larger/wider tires provide more traction for acceleration/steering/braking
Staggered fitment add traction to help balance a vehicle.
If the front tires lose traction when turning it is said to "understeer" because
the car can not turn as tightly as you turned the steering wheel. Most cars understeer.
If the rear tires lose traction first it is said to be "oversteering" because the car is
turning further than you expected from the amount of steering wheel angle you gave it.
This is great fun as most CL participants would agree if anticipated, dangerous if unexpected.

Our ES's are FWD with more weight on the front wheels. Classic staggered fitment puts the
larger tires on the rear to accommodate excess power during acceleration if RWD.
If you are planning this for a racey appearance please post pics but be aware the car is
going to understeer even more than it does now.

Back in 2007 GM built versions of the normally V6 Impala & Grand Prix with the SBC 5.3 V8.
The Impala SS wore 235/5--18's front and rear. The GXP however had 255/45-18 in front and
225/50-18's on the back! This 300 HP 3500 lb. car had less understeer than the Chevrolet.

Are you considering this "reverse stagger" to enhance performance?
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I have thought of putting the wider tires in front as they are not that much wider then the rear. I wouldnt be racing or anything its all for show.

The only thing is I found out is the genesis wheels center bore is larger. I dont know if this is a big issue?

I have the 17s currently but want to up size
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Larger hub bore size is definitely an issue, you will have to find centering rings and hope they dont shake or vibrate. Staggered wheels and tires on a front drive car, hmmm, I personally wouldnt do it, square setup is best.
I see no benefit for staggered on fwd cars except maybe looks, can’t rotate, tire prices are higher etc

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Originally Posted by egk2lexus
Larger hub bore size is definitely an issue, you will have to find centering rings and hope they dont shake or vibrate. Staggered wheels and tires on a front drive car, hmmm, I personally wouldnt do it, square setup is best.
I see no benefit for staggered on fwd cars except maybe looks, can’t rotate, tire prices are higher etc
Spare is an issue.
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I decided not to go through with it. Will wait and buy GS 350 f sport wheels or from another Lexus model.
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Those wheels didnt look good enough for all the hassle to get them to work imo. I almost bought a used es350 with 19” Gs350 f sport wheels, looked pretty good even without a drop.






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Old 10-11-20, 10:31 AM
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Those are off a 2019 gs350? I was also thinking the 2013 gs f sport wheels would look good.

What do you think of these?
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You know you have a really good, aftermarket wheel maker there in Quebec. I got a set of RTX “Twist” wheels for my ES. The center bore is different but the adapter rings work well; (just don’t get the cheap, plastic rings). I got them for my summer tires; the Lexus wheels had been curbed and I use those for my winter tires. RTX have quite a few that could fit your car and they are well priced. Rtxwheels.com





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I think the es350 looks best with mesh type wheels like the Oem 18” the come on the ultra luxury models, classy and doesnt require a drop to look good.

pic of mine...





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Originally Posted by Dejan13
I have thought of putting the wider tires in front as they are not that much wider then the rear. I wouldnt be racing or anything its all for show.

The only thing is I found out is the genesis wheels center bore is larger. I dont know if this is a big issue?

I have the 17s currently but want to up size

Factory 18"......
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I like the factory 18 look as well but have not seen any for sale in my area.
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Oem 18’s all over ebay.
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