Engine stops running driving down the road
#17
So, let me get this straight.
- This happened one time and the dealer says the computer shows that you pressed the gas and brake at the same time.
- Lexus corp is offering you a buyback for something that happened once and looks to be an operator error issue.
- You're afraid to drive the vehicle, due to something that occurred once.
Got it!
- This happened one time and the dealer says the computer shows that you pressed the gas and brake at the same time.
- Lexus corp is offering you a buyback for something that happened once and looks to be an operator error issue.
- You're afraid to drive the vehicle, due to something that occurred once.
Got it!
#18
My Lexus dealer is saying that the computer shows where the gas and brake have been applied 37 times in the 9700 miles that is on the car. What I am saying is the car shut off or stumbled once for 10 + seconds while driving down the open road on a clear day in traffic. I find it very strange that there have been several recalls on this vehicle that can produce the same results that I experienced 3 weeks ago. The reason for the recall is a a faulty fuel pump.
Once is enough. Once is too much.
Once is enough. Once is too much.
#19
My Lexus dealer is saying that the computer shows where the gas and brake have been applied 37 times in the 9700 miles that is on the car. What I am saying is the car shut off or stumbled once for 10 + seconds while driving down the open road on a clear day in traffic. I find it very strange that there have been several recalls on this vehicle that can produce the same results that I experienced 3 weeks ago. The reason for the recall is a a faulty fuel pump.
Once is enough. Once is too much.
Once is enough. Once is too much.
Please expand on how this buyback is going to work.
#21
I just read the 2 pages. I'm not sure what's so hard to understand about what he said happen, and what the Dealer told him.
What is strange is what the Dealer scan shows? And why the fix is not to just install a new fuel pump? There must be something very weird going on with the ECU or signal sending units? I'm also guessing the Buyback is about legal liability and possible making sure there is no Damage to Lexus's image.about this.
What is strange is what the Dealer scan shows? And why the fix is not to just install a new fuel pump? There must be something very weird going on with the ECU or signal sending units? I'm also guessing the Buyback is about legal liability and possible making sure there is no Damage to Lexus's image.about this.
#22
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What is strange is what the Dealer scan shows? And why the fix is not to just install a new fuel pump? There must be something very weird going on with the ECU or signal sending units? I'm also guessing the Buyback is about legal liability and possible making sure there is no Damage to Lexus's image.about this.
What is strange is what the Dealer scan shows? And why the fix is not to just install a new fuel pump? There must be something very weird going on with the ECU or signal sending units? I'm also guessing the Buyback is about legal liability and possible making sure there is no Damage to Lexus's image.about this.
#23
The car has been to the dealer. They tell me the computer's data tells them that the driver is pressing on the accelerator and the brake at the same time and that is what caused the engine to shut off. That is Ludicrous. There was a recall on this model year and make back in March for the same thing. According to the dealer my car is not in that recall.
Every so often I will follow someone on the highway and see them clearly accelerating or maintaining speed while their brake lights are lit up and that’s usually what they are doing. Have a friend that drives like this who swore he never pushes both until I showed him a video of him driving off from a stop with his brakes lights on.
I’m pretty sure I read Lexus and Toyota added logic to their ECUs during the unintended acceleration lawsuits in the early 2000s to help prevent drivers from having issues not being able to stop when they press both pedals by cutting power. Might be the cause of this situation.
#24
Ok, I found where the OP may be getting this fuel pump recall info. If you think your dealer is not being truthful with you on your ES being included in the recall, you can look it up yourself here: https://www.toyota.com/recall
OP also made no mention of any warning lights on the dash, which would be a good indication of the issue.
"If the fuel pump were to stop working, Toyota said in its statement, the engine would run rough and various warning lights would illuminate. This could stall the car, and the engine could not restart afterward. If the engine were to stall at higher speeds, the result could be a crash, Toyota said."
The part that removes all credibility for me is where he/she states Lexus corporate is working on buying the vehicle back. Since when does a manufacture offer to buy back a vehicle where no issue has been found, other than operator error?
OP also made no mention of any warning lights on the dash, which would be a good indication of the issue.
"If the fuel pump were to stop working, Toyota said in its statement, the engine would run rough and various warning lights would illuminate. This could stall the car, and the engine could not restart afterward. If the engine were to stall at higher speeds, the result could be a crash, Toyota said."
The part that removes all credibility for me is where he/she states Lexus corporate is working on buying the vehicle back. Since when does a manufacture offer to buy back a vehicle where no issue has been found, other than operator error?
#26
There have been many car owners who stated something that the dealer and/or Manufacture denied until guess what................................ Ever seen a Auto manufacturer Class action suite?
There are also many different things giving readings to the ECU that might tell you it something completely different that what it is.
Last edited by jgscott; 10-14-20 at 02:08 PM.
#27
do you happen to drive with two feet? Use right for accelerating and left for the brake? Or rest your left foot near the brake sometime?
Every so often I will follow someone on the highway and see them clearly accelerating or maintaining speed while their brake lights are lit up and that’s usually what they are doing. Have a friend that drives like this who swore he never pushes both until I showed him a video of him driving off from a stop with his brakes lights on.
I’m pretty sure I read Lexus and Toyota added logic to their ECUs during the unintended acceleration lawsuits in the early 2000s to help prevent drivers from having issues not being able to stop when they press both pedals by cutting power. Might be the cause of this situation.
Every so often I will follow someone on the highway and see them clearly accelerating or maintaining speed while their brake lights are lit up and that’s usually what they are doing. Have a friend that drives like this who swore he never pushes both until I showed him a video of him driving off from a stop with his brakes lights on.
I’m pretty sure I read Lexus and Toyota added logic to their ECUs during the unintended acceleration lawsuits in the early 2000s to help prevent drivers from having issues not being able to stop when they press both pedals by cutting power. Might be the cause of this situation.
That logic you mentioned could be the problem. .
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