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Old 02-14-21, 11:34 PM
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Thanks for the PM and remembering me! Yeah had a pearl white 1992 SC300 5 speed from 2012 to 2018, it was my main car, drove it on many a road trip, racked the odometer from 60k to 100k in that time period. That's a lot of miles since it sat a lot in the winter and I lived 8 miles from work. Still kind of kicking myself for selling it, but it was going to need like $3,000 worth of work in the next year or so(suspension, timing belt, was rusting along the top of the windshield). Love my new ES, its a superior car except its a rather soul-less thing compared to the SC. That car had real style, a certain timeless quality about it. And that inline six was smoother than the V6 in the ES, made a way nicer snarl when you got on it.
Yea I had a 99 SC400 with Zex Nitrous Kit, Headers and other goodies.

You will fully enjoy the ES350 you just got. Its grows on you and keeps on growing. Get the right tires on it, and what a pleasure and how easy it drives. Sit back get comfortable in the seat, and just let it do what it does. Honestly I don't think I have driven a car that drives itself so good as the ES. The only thing close was my 2002 Lincoln LS V8.
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Yea I had a 99 SC400 with Zex Nitrous Kit, Headers and other goodies.

You will fully enjoy the ES350 you just got. Its grows on you and keeps on growing. Get the right tires on it, and what a pleasure and how easy it drives. Sit back get comfortable in the seat, and just let it do what it does. Honestly I don't think I have driven a car that drives itself so good as the ES. The only thing close was my 2002 Lincoln LS V8.
Agreed on the right tires, will wear these stupid no name tires for a few months/few thousand miles, get new Michelians/Contentianals, sell the 4 no name ones for $200-300 bucks.
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Originally Posted by jgscott
Yea I had a 99 SC400 with Zex Nitrous Kit, Headers and other goodies.

You will fully enjoy the ES350 you just got. Its grows on you and keeps on growing. Get the right tires on it, and what a pleasure and how easy it drives. Sit back get comfortable in the seat, and just let it do what it does. Honestly I don't think I have driven a car that drives itself so good as the ES. The only thing close was my 2002 Lincoln LS V8.
I am in the same boat, the ES beats all my previous cars. Super comfy, no issues. I probably will always buy Lexus from now on, no reason to try any other brand.
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Originally Posted by Aron9000
Agreed on the right tires, will wear these stupid no name tires for a few months/few thousand miles, get new Michelians/Contentianals, sell the 4 no name ones for $200-300 bucks.
The ES likes Michelins and the Pirelli P7. It been tried by lots here to be the best 2 Winners. I ran both but settled on the P7 it wears longer.

I was Michelin only Guy but I got tired of how fast they wore out.
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I also considered a 2014ish-2017ish V6 Honda Accord. Loved the sporty handling, rode a bit stiffer, but where it fell apart for me was all the damn road noise, part of it was the bigger 18" wheels/tires/stiffer suspension you got when you opted for the V6. Also the seats kind of disagreed with me, fiddled with that adjustment a million times on the test drive. Also liked the look on the Lexus better. But I get why people buy Accords, it drove/handled REALLY DAMN NICE, the V6 was rather damn quick/super slick/smooth, you could see out of it better than the ES, the 2016/2017ish car I drove with 90k miles still felt tight as a drum, didn't squeak/rattle AT ALL. Still they were wanting $19,000 for that car and it had a nasty whack on the rear bumper. And the interior wasn't as nice as the ES either.
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>The only thing close was my 2002 Lincoln LS V8.

Ya, but that was really a Jaguar S-Type under the skin.
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Originally Posted by pab12
>The only thing close was my 2002 Lincoln LS V8.

Ya, but that was really a Jaguar S-Type under the skin.
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Everyone has different criteria in selecting a vehicle. Way high up my list is reliability. We are on our sixth Lexus and have not had the first problem with any. J D Power has ranked Lexus in the last ten years #1 eight times and #2 twice. In the current survey 2020 which looks at three year old cars which would be a 2017 Chrysler they rank second from the bottom.

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For reliability and resale value, the Lexus is the clear choice. I do know what you mean about front wheel drive vehicles with lots of power. It is an uneasy feeling. If you never have snow or ice where you live, rear wheel drive is fine. Only all wheel drive gets you around better in winter driving than front wheel drive.
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Originally Posted by oreguyd
For reliability and resale value, the Lexus is the clear choice. I do know what you mean about front wheel drive vehicles with lots of power. It is an uneasy feeling. If you never have snow or ice where you live, rear wheel drive is fine. Only all wheel drive gets you around better in winter driving than front wheel drive.
And even then, only for acceleration; braking and steering still use the same four traction patches.
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My last rear wheel drive car was a '77 Monte Carlo. With an inch or two of snow, you could get around to a limited extent. Add ice, or heavily compacted snow and anything above 15 m.p.h. felt like "bumper car". steering. Instead of buying my Lexus, I did consider a Subaru Legacy only because of the all wheel drive. Maybe most cars should have that?
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Originally Posted by Tootsall
And even then, only for acceleration; braking and steering still use the same four traction patches.
Front wheel drive cars with a V6 or V8 tend to be pretty nose heavy and understeer. Push them hard and you can tell a marked difference between a dialed in RWD car. As for snow, RWD does fine if you have good tires and put some weight in trunk/bed of the truck. At least for the conditions around here, we never get more than 3-4" at a time(as I look out the window and realized its snowed 2" in the past hour lol)
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Well, I live in Portland and 1" of snow causes major problems. I'm also recalling my experience with rear wheel drive from 35 years ago! If i had a another one, it'd be a Challenger. I had a '70 R/T as a kid. Always liked their look, but hated their reliability.

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Originally Posted by oreguyd
Well, I live in Portland and 1" of snow causes major problems. I'm also recalling my experience with rear wheel drive from 35 years ago! If i had a another one, it'd be a Challenger. I had a '70 R/T as a kid. Always liked their look, but hated their reliability.
I would go with the Lexus. I’m biased to Lexus, but for good reason. I had a 99 GS with over 300,000 miles and everything was still in tact like *****, plastics, levers, etc.

Good luck.


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