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My personal experience is that I did my first drain and fill at 100k miles and am now going to do a drain and fill every 45k miles. I may shorten the interval since I mostly do city driving. I wish I would've done my first drain and fill at 60k miles though. Also, I would never do a flush.
Me I would change it at least 3 more times at least starting the next 15k intervals. Also drop the pan and change the filter too, and clean off the magnetic drain bolt. For sure the fluid will be dark black and one change will only get about 15% -20 new fluid in there. Also the filter will have metal in there, and the bolt will have Metal stuck to it. Also use the Valvoline Full Synthetic or other Full synthetic not Toyota fluid. Even though it supposed to be a sealed Trans, it has a Vent.
No one has to do anything at all. If you are not then just ignore this post. This is for those that do, not those that don't. In fact I'll cover that too. If you want to........... just leave it and don't do nothing.
Just changed mine for the third time doing drain and fill. The color and smell has improved as well as shifts. This is with only 60k. I also notice less vibration at idle as well. I have been using 1 quart of WS and 1 quart of Valvoline synthetic. I use a scanguage II to monitor trans temps for servicing. I have also noticed my trans temp being lower while driving. I will continue to drain / fill every 20k. Very easy to do with the scanguage II.
Just changed mine for the third time doing drain and fill. The color and smell has improved as well as shifts. This is with only 60k. I also notice less vibration at idle as well. I have been using 1 quart of WS and 1 quart of Valvoline synthetic. I use a scanguage II to monitor trans temps for servicing. I have also noticed my trans temp being lower while driving. I will continue to drain / fill every 20k. Very easy to do with the scanguage II.
Have you also notice the Tranny stop the whining noise? I did.
Have you also notice the Tranny stop the whining noise? I did.
I never really had the whine. I initially changed it right when I bought it at 35k. I change all of my new vehicles no later than 10k just to get rid of the break-in particles. I do not care what anyone at a dealership or the internet cowboys say, I have been rebuilding engines and transmissions for over 40 years.
Most folks do not realize that this transmission has a paper element filter, not a screen. Paper element filters must be changed for proper maintenance.
I never really had the whine. I initially changed it right when I bought it at 35k. I change all of my new vehicles no later than 10k just to get rid of the break-in particles. I do not care what anyone at a dealership or the internet cowboys say, I have been rebuilding engines and transmissions for over 40 years.
Most folks do not realize that this transmission has a paper element filter, not a screen. Paper element filters must be changed for proper maintenance.
It is bolted to the valve body inside the transmission pan. It is a black plastic housing with the filter inside. Looks exactly (except for the shape) like the ones on my GM trucks. Below item number 35330
It is bolted to the valve body inside the transmission pan. It is a black plastic housing with the filter inside. Looks exactly (except for the shape) like the ones on my GM trucks. Below item number 35330
This is what I use. I mix the Toyota WS with the Valvoline synthetic. There are fluid properties of the WS that I still want to keep, but also want the advantage of synthetic.
I also do drain and fill in my wifes 4runner. I do not mix the Valvoline in hers because the transmission temps stay so low compared to the ES 350. Hers gets Toyota WS and her 4runner also does not have a paper element, it has a metal screen.
I am only telling folks what I do and why. Please do your own research. I have been doing this a long time and am comfortable with my approach on my personal vehicles. If I were doing a customers car I would stay with the factory fluid. I also understand why some folks do not agree with me and that is cool.
Well... I went to the local Toyota dealer with my 2014 ES 350, and asked for the transmission fluid to be changed. NO problem, well do a flush. I had it done. running fine, in fact better, was getting the odd troublesome shift before, all good now. I'll be off on a 2000 mile trip next week, I'll let you know how it goes.
Well... I went to the local Toyota dealer with my 2014 ES 350, and asked for the transmission fluid to be changed. NO problem, well do a flush. I had it done. running fine, in fact better, was getting the odd troublesome shift before, all good now. I'll be off on a 2000 mile trip next week, I'll let you know how it goes.
And the "flush haters" need not reply.
How many miles on the car? IMO, any change introducing new fluid is better than no change. I'm not a flush fan, but you likely will be better off than no change, and likely will have no problems. Nice how better its shifts after and the whining noise goes away too.
How many miles on the car? IMO, any change introducing new fluid is better than no change. I'm not a flush fan, but you likely will be better off than no change, and likely will have no problems. Nice how better its shifts after and the whining noise goes away too.
130,000 KM, about 80 K miles. Have had a trans flush on the last 4 or 5 cars I owned, all improved shifting and smoothness. My last one , a 2004 Chrysler I flushed when I bought it at 110,000 kms, which improved the shifting etc. and it was still shifting fine when I sold it at 265,000 kms. IMO most, if not all of those stories about disaster after a flush are about a transmission on its last legs.
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