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Old 06-16-21, 02:15 PM
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Originally Posted by lesz
With both the 2013 and 2017 ES cars that I owned, I drove in Eco mode over 99% of the time. I never found a problem with the air conditioning in Eco mode, even on days when the temperature was 95 degrees or hotter.

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I live in AZ, 113 degrees today.

I'm not accepting 1% less AC performance. I think I read the ECO mode only allows 70% capacity for the compressor to save gas. Nope, not here. In the winter though I will sometimes use Eco.

One reason I am loyal to Lexus is they just have amazing AC. Seems trivial, and most parts of the world a small thing, but when you've owned a car that has subpar AC in the southwest, it's a miserable experience.

The ES has one of the best AC's I've ever owned. Second only to the Lexus LS430. It had a "Middle East" mode you could access through the dealer TechStream scanner that went colder than the factory setting for markets like Dubai. I had 39 degrees coming out of the vent in the middle of summer.
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Old 06-17-21, 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BradTank
I live in AZ, 113 degrees today.

I'm not accepting 1% less AC performance. I think I read the ECO mode only allows 70% capacity for the compressor to save gas. Nope, not here. In the winter though I will sometimes use Eco.

One reason I am loyal to Lexus is they just have amazing AC. Seems trivial, and most parts of the world a small thing, but when you've owned a car that has subpar AC in the southwest, it's a miserable experience.

The ES has one of the best AC's I've ever owned. Second only to the Lexus LS430. It had a "Middle East" mode you could access through the dealer TechStream scanner that went colder than the factory setting for markets like Dubai. I had 39 degrees coming out of the vent in the middle of summer.
The latest gen ES A/C is not as good as your gen ES. I had a 2021 ES250 and you had to lower it to "Lo" to get decent cool air.
Old 06-17-21, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Lexuss07
The latest gen ES A/C is not as good as your gen ES. I had a 2021 ES250 and you had to lower it to "Lo" to get decent cool air.
That's unfortunate to hear. I've owned 6 Lexus and I'm seriously giving thought to leaving the brand over a variety of issues. Just seems to be going in the wrong direction.

I don't know why every company wants to imitate BMW, it just seems like Lexus is embarrassed to make comfortable, luxury cars.
Old 06-17-21, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by lesz
With both the 2013 and 2017 ES cars that I owned, I drove in Eco mode over 99% of the time. I never found a problem with the air conditioning in Eco mode, even on days when the temperature was 95 degrees or hotter.

I found that the key to getting the AC to work well and to cool off the cabin more quickly, regardless of whether I was using Eco, Normal, or Sport mode, was to switch the AC from the recirculate mode to the fresh air mode immediately after starting the car. On very hot days, when the car has been parked in the sun, the temperature inside the cabin can reach 135 degrees or higher. The last thing you want to do is to be recirculating air that is 40 degrees or more hotter than the air outside of the car. Switching to fresh air mode can help the car to cool off noticeably faster.
I just put all the windows down for about 1/4 of a mile with the a/c on full blast/recirc if its been sitting in the sun for a few hours. Gets the temp inside the car to about the same as the outside air so the a/c will cool it off pretty quick that way. Best A/C(and heater) ever was in my 2004 Tacoma reg cab. Pretty sure it was the same spec as for a 4Runner, only you had about 1/8th of the volume to cool. Even on a 105 degree day I'd have to turn it down or get a brain freeze. Same thing with a white Dodge Ram Promaster van I rented for work one time, it was so cold it gave me a brain freeze in August.
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Originally Posted by lesz
The 2017 ES has the all glass panoramic roof, which likely weighs 150-200 pounds more than does the standard sunroof that the 2013 ES had. I also suspect that the 2017 is a bit less efficient because it has more safety technology that consumes a bit more energy.
i have 2013 ES350 with all glass roof its giving me all time average at 9.1l/100km = 25.8mpg US
All time city driving gives me around 10.4l/100km = 22.61mpg
these days its around 8.4l/100km = 28mpg
if i drive it for 2-300KM highway at 115 kmph it dropped to 6.7l/100km = 35.10mpg this was the lowest highest i have seen on my car

It is running on 18” michelin primacy mxmv4 and always use shell regular gas
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Just got it a couple weeks ago, but my 2015 ES 350 is getting around 18 city / 30-35 highway. I think the city would be in the low 20s, but I live on a hill that goes up about 500 feet in elevation over half a mile, and that kills my MPG for short trips.
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