ptthere

Thanks! And yeah, I dig the "perfect" blend of pearl and flake that Lexus put in their different colors.

olmk

That's the one (you are sharp ). I saw the carfax and as you mentioned it had 3 accidents . I'll check the links you sent below.

jeverett72

Yeah I would pay a little extra to have no accidents or only 1 minor like mine has. Tough call betw the Satin Cashmere and the Liquid Platinum (which are both discontinued Lexus colors). They both have Flaxen interiors which is nice and preferable to black IMO esp in the Florida heat. They are both identical to mine except for the Satin Cashmere which has the rear lip spoiler.

jeverett72

People love their GSes

https://www.edmunds.com/lexus/gs-350/2013/consumer-reviews/

vetdoc

I have to agree here completely. If the car was serviced properly and by authorized dealer very little difference in a 25,000 mi ES350 and a 50,000 ES350 except the extra 3-4 thousand dollars you will pay. I bought my 2013 ES350 Ultra Luxury with 54,000 Miles in 2020 from the original owner who still had one month left on the extended manufactures Lexus warranty. It was serviced exclusively by the same Lexus Dealer he bought the car from originally. The car was 9.5/10 with the leather just needing some cleaning and enhancing with some product. I was very fortunate at the time to talk this very wealthy Gentleman down on his aking price of $19,000 to $16,300 (Original price $50,000 with ultra luxury package). It was a steal!
The cost of used cars now is pretty rediculous big bubble just like housing market. When the recession hits us (notice I said when, not if) prices will drop easily by 20-30%. Try and be patient and wait for a great deal, it will happen if you wait.

703

Yes, have owned 2 GSs and they are totally different to the ES. However, they are not better at everything compared to the ES.

jgscott

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703 and I are in both Forums. Yes the ES still does some special things the GS does not reward you with. We can 100% agree on this.

olmk

I have decided that it's time to wait and not rush, I don't want to throw money down the pipe, prices are crazy crazy. These cars are nice, I already love them, and I know some people just pay the current prices and if that works for them that's totally valid. hey @jeverett72 thank you so much buddy for all the replies as I've learned a lot from your recommendations and links, also from other members. I took a few more days to drive (and to think what the heck I'm doing hahaha, but no seriously I'm very very conscious with what I do with my money to get the most of it) some more ES and I like them a lot. I've also learned with this thread to refine what I was looking for (not longer looking for the base trim, but I want something with Lux and Prem pkgs and if possible both and UL included would be a plus) since when I created the thread I was totally "green" so to speak in the knowledge of trims, etc. I appreciate all the responses, you guys are awesome!!

All the best
OLMK

vetdoc

I second your decision to wait. I think prices will come way down over the next 6-8 months. Good Luck

xjokerz

Good idea. Prices are indeed nuts. We're heading towards a recession, so don't worry. Prices will come down guaranteed.

703

In a recession, people don’t want to part with a perfectly running Lexus, so you don’t see much top tier examples.

lesz

Prices of used cars will come down only after supply chain issues are resolved and new car availability returns to near normal levels. And industry experts are predicting that this will not happen at any time soon. I've seen predictions that this might happen well into 2023 or later.

Historically, when there are high levels of inflation, yes, that inflation will subside if there is a recession, but even if prices of goods stop increasing, it is unlikely that there will be deflation that results in prices of goods returning to the pre-inflation levels.

A major reason why there are not many UL Generation 6 ES available in the used car market and why fully-equipped UL ES are priced so high is that, for the Generation 6 ES, production of UL ES was quite limited. Even before the current used car market conditions, it was very difficult to find a used 2013-2018 UL ES, and the ones that were available were priced quite high.

703

Also depends on your budget, the 2016+ are good buys used as they don't feel dated at all (i.e. has the same steering wheel as the current generation RX, has the updated instrument cluster, updated Nav, has Lexus Safety Sense).

olmk

So a little update. I drove the first GS since I have been trying to test drive and get a feel of those cars (I have driven many ES in the last month). This one was a 2015/Red/Brown-Interior with the F-Sport pkg with around 50k miles (BTW this car was in a accident, although the report says no frame damage occurred, etc. The car is very sexy. But the most striking thing about it is that inside of it it felt pretty big, bulky (not in a bad way), It was like commanding a spaceship to be honest . I'm not going to buy one yet, but I'm taking my time to drive and get a feel. This one though had a rattling noise (pluc pluc pluc) when pressing the brake to stop (at certain speeds, at lower speeds I couldn't notice that too much), also I think It needs a wheel alignment job, sometimes going straight the steering wheel was more turned to the right side, very weird. While driving it, I pressed the pedal all the way down and it was on!! Solid car, I like it, price is $31k, though. I think asking $31k for a car with an accident record and some noticeable issues when driving is asking too much. But the Force is strong on the GS, that's for sure.

Regards,
OLMK

ptthere

Even without an accident, $31k is still pretty high for that car being almost 8 years old. Ones I have seen sell around here lately go for about $25k with those specs (which is still high).