2023 Lexus ES 300h Arrived - No ML
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To the original poster: just take your time and find the right car that equips with all options you want.
You drive it everyday, you pay a good amount of money for it, make it something you enjoy all the time. ML sounds great for me. You know what is greater: it fits like it was was designed for the car LOL j/k, don't forget everything is covered by factory warranty LOL.
Why settle for less, then spend money (maybe more than you would on ML) and headache to research, order parts, installing etc., and probably more money, headache and hassle later if something break, trying to retro fit some other stuff to the car. It will never look OEM, my opinion, and it probably just devalue the car...
You drive it everyday, you pay a good amount of money for it, make it something you enjoy all the time. ML sounds great for me. You know what is greater: it fits like it was was designed for the car LOL j/k, don't forget everything is covered by factory warranty LOL.
Why settle for less, then spend money (maybe more than you would on ML) and headache to research, order parts, installing etc., and probably more money, headache and hassle later if something break, trying to retro fit some other stuff to the car. It will never look OEM, my opinion, and it probably just devalue the car...
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rogerdiaz (08-01-23)
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Hi all, I have a 2020 CPO ES300h without ML. Best I could find during COVID as I was still driving for military work.
I come from BMW 3 series HK Logic 7 with 16 speakers multiple gens.
Any brand recommendations or speaker upgrades to pioneer system? Is it even worth it?
I have a galaxy S23 hardwired android auto with Apple Music High quality, sometimes lossless streaming while driving. maybe placebo for me.
Thanks
I come from BMW 3 series HK Logic 7 with 16 speakers multiple gens.
Any brand recommendations or speaker upgrades to pioneer system? Is it even worth it?
I have a galaxy S23 hardwired android auto with Apple Music High quality, sometimes lossless streaming while driving. maybe placebo for me.
Thanks
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ML sounds nicer than base system yes, but if you like to listen very loud it’s disappointing. If you’re the kind of person who doesn’t know or care about acoustic suspension vs band pass vs ported enclosures, or what RMS power is, you’ll probably love it.
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I don't know what any of those things are and I still don't love it. It's fine but so are the base systems offered by Lexus as far as I'm concerned.
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bc6152 (08-01-23)
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Hi all, I have a 2020 CPO ES300h without ML. Best I could find during COVID as I was still driving for military work.
I come from BMW 3 series HK Logic 7 with 16 speakers multiple gens.
Any brand recommendations or speaker upgrades to pioneer system? Is it even worth it?
I have a galaxy S23 hardwired android auto with Apple Music High quality, sometimes lossless streaming while driving. maybe placebo for me.
Thanks
I come from BMW 3 series HK Logic 7 with 16 speakers multiple gens.
Any brand recommendations or speaker upgrades to pioneer system? Is it even worth it?
I have a galaxy S23 hardwired android auto with Apple Music High quality, sometimes lossless streaming while driving. maybe placebo for me.
Thanks
https://www.crutchfield.com/car/outfitmycar/mycar.aspx
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MAMOSKO (08-01-23)
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Hey everyone,
I've been lurking these forums for months, doing research and homework. I put a deposit down for a 2023 Lexus ES 300h with all the fixins the first week of January after my car was totaled in an accident. The car is arriving today but the caveat is that there is no ML premium audio because of the shortage on the parts. The premium audio was a major selling point for me because I love listening to music when I drive more than anything else.
Is the Mark Levinson premium system worth waiting until the next allocation with hopes it will include the ML premium audio? May it be best to take the car as is and pay for a shop to upgrade the sound system with high quality parts like Focal? Has anyone done the latter through a shop? If so, how much did that cost?
P.S. I do not have the skills to upgrade the sound system myself. Please do not suggest this.
I've been lurking these forums for months, doing research and homework. I put a deposit down for a 2023 Lexus ES 300h with all the fixins the first week of January after my car was totaled in an accident. The car is arriving today but the caveat is that there is no ML premium audio because of the shortage on the parts. The premium audio was a major selling point for me because I love listening to music when I drive more than anything else.
Is the Mark Levinson premium system worth waiting until the next allocation with hopes it will include the ML premium audio? May it be best to take the car as is and pay for a shop to upgrade the sound system with high quality parts like Focal? Has anyone done the latter through a shop? If so, how much did that cost?
P.S. I do not have the skills to upgrade the sound system myself. Please do not suggest this.
hope this helps
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Hey everyone,
I've been lurking these forums for months, doing research and homework. I put a deposit down for a 2023 Lexus ES 300h with all the fixins the first week of January after my car was totaled in an accident. The car is arriving today but the caveat is that there is no ML premium audio because of the shortage on the parts. The premium audio was a major selling point for me because I love listening to music when I drive more than anything else.
Is the Mark Levinson premium system worth waiting until the next allocation with hopes it will include the ML premium audio? May it be best to take the car as is and pay for a shop to upgrade the sound system with high quality parts like Focal? Has anyone done the latter through a shop? If so, how much did that cost?
P.S. I do not have the skills to upgrade the sound system myself. Please do not suggest this.
I've been lurking these forums for months, doing research and homework. I put a deposit down for a 2023 Lexus ES 300h with all the fixins the first week of January after my car was totaled in an accident. The car is arriving today but the caveat is that there is no ML premium audio because of the shortage on the parts. The premium audio was a major selling point for me because I love listening to music when I drive more than anything else.
Is the Mark Levinson premium system worth waiting until the next allocation with hopes it will include the ML premium audio? May it be best to take the car as is and pay for a shop to upgrade the sound system with high quality parts like Focal? Has anyone done the latter through a shop? If so, how much did that cost?
P.S. I do not have the skills to upgrade the sound system myself. Please do not suggest this.
Relying on impressionistic opinions and biased perspectives can create a skewed perception of reality and cause unnecessary overthinking. Which frequently leads to disappointment. It is crucial to build a solid foundation of factual knowledge to support your ideas and beliefs as they relate to your decision. I recommend comparing each option against each other to determine which one is the best fit for your needs. It's essential to thoroughly evaluate all of your options before making a decision. Then at least, you will have a stronger foundation if you pursue the aftermarket route.
I have noticed a significant rise in ML audio allocations in my area.
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I've had the ML on both my vehicles and it does provide a better sound based on the source. Regular radio sounds crap. XM radio sounds good. Dvd audio sounds awesome. For me it was worth it.
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