E46CT

Mike remember how I told you how I loved the RX seats when I sat in them. that pillowy cloud feel. Well the Y seats are like that x2. i'm almost literally riding on a cloud. i should PM you about my seats!

mikemu30

Yep - I was in Tampa a few weeks ago just for a long weekend getaway - my wife wanted to stop in a mall there and what do I see - a Tesla store in the mall. I sat in the Model Y - quite nice indeed. Glad you're enjoying it!

E46CT

<3 i hope you thought of me <3

july1988

My 2cent on my 2019 F-sport seat: it is sporty to sat in (these bolsters are firm but not too firm/poky) and it looks cool, however for long drive it is uncomfortable to me, overall (I was 30 when I got it, I don't have any back problem)
After 4 years and 62K miles many many 3h+ long trip sitting on it, I can live with it. In a long trip, even though I can feel the pain after about 2 hours, I just take a quick 5-min bathroom break anyway and I will be fine again.

Is the Fsport seat the most comfortable seat, NO.
Does it look cool, especially in red, HELL YES. White - Red with triple beam headlights FSport was the exactly and only combo I wanted to buy.
Would I trade them for non-Fsport ES seats (just base, not even UL seats are much more comfy): NO - only YES if I Uber on it aka spend all day on it.

I think Lexus updated the FSport seat in 2021 or 2022, at least the look (look better overall, less RED though LOL), not sure if the cushion was "upgraded".

mikemu30

Mine is a 19 and I find the seats quite comfy. One weekend last year or so, drove NJ to VA and back in same weekend - seven hours each way and not a drop of back fatigue.

BBQapple

The reality is everyone will have a different experience due to differing bodies and driving postures.

Ive only had one car ever where I was completely refreshed after a 3 plus hour drive and never wanted to stop to stretch my legs at a gas station or whatever - the LS430.

On even a normal day I spend two hours in the car, so seats are important to me for sure. The ES is in my top 5 of cars I’ve had for seats, but I’d happily spend a few grand to improve and since I have all black interior already the F seats could look right at home as well. The F seats in my wife’s car are great and I test drove an ES F and liked them similarly.

E46CT

But I think you'll agree the RX seats are superior in comfort to the ES seats?

mikemu30

For me, it's a photo finish and I drove both cars pretty regularly. If you ask my wife, you'll get a different answer. She's just not a fan of sedans these days.

E46CT

you have an F Sport so maybe it's different. but maybe if you felt the non -sport seats you'd agree they're pretty crummy. my seat bottoms after 6 months (both ESes) are deformed/wavy (others have posted similar)

My CT200h after 5 years? completely 100% factory showroom fresh. i want my bottoms to be puffy and springy. Not saggy and wavy =(

ATL350

Is it the upholstery that’s deformed/stretched/wavy or is the actual foam permanently deformed? The latter should be a warranty issue if so…

BBQapple

The F seats are a different manufacturing process where the upholstery is molded and adhered to the foam which is molded together in a form fitting cast method. They essentially squirt form into a mold which already has the outer upholstery inside the mold to form the shape.

The upholstery on the F seats shouldn’t sag or bunch up, where the normal seats do start to get stretched out. I don’t see how this upholstery issue would affect comfort, however the blowing in of foam molding method the F seats use could definitely incorporate multi density layers better leading to better support and comfort. Lexus is pretty proud of their innovations here and had a corporate video on it as I recall.

mikemu30

Ive driven several non F loaners and also my wife's RX which is non F. No problem with those seats but I prefer the F overall seats and all.

CJS57

Anyone found a better add on seat cushion than the Amazon?

Lesley248

A bit excessive but highly recommend the purple pillow seat. I don't have it personally but have driven my friend's car on a road trip with it and it was incredible. Have also watched random youtube videos of where truck drivers swear by it.

ATL350

I can understand the desire for some of these seat pads but don't they negate or limit use of the seat heating/cooling?