Observations on Mark Levinson Audio on 2023 ES 350 - Average at best
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I hear your explanation. I have had my surround turned off as well—some clear further findings.
Carplay is disabled, and Bluetooth is still .better. With EQ off, there is a slight improvement but not that huge as Carplay Wireless does not leverage the iphone's EQ and Bluetooth does.
This is in comparison to Bang & Olufsen that honestly is a night and day. You got to listen to it to believe it. ML is much better than my dad's Honda with factory radio for sure but it's average at its best.
Lexus could have taken this a notch up by adding cleaner bass modules as B&O vs, the boomy sound output with the ML
Furthermore, to this whole discussion of FLAC, why should I care when the music on my iPhone is being delivered? The audio settings are on the highest settings causing my data to go off the roof. The exact same source sounds like a nightclub in the Audi where as on the ML, it's a glorified boom box. I love the lexus for sure but in terms of music, they should have done better.
Carplay is disabled, and Bluetooth is still .better. With EQ off, there is a slight improvement but not that huge as Carplay Wireless does not leverage the iphone's EQ and Bluetooth does.
This is in comparison to Bang & Olufsen that honestly is a night and day. You got to listen to it to believe it. ML is much better than my dad's Honda with factory radio for sure but it's average at its best.
Lexus could have taken this a notch up by adding cleaner bass modules as B&O vs, the boomy sound output with the ML
Furthermore, to this whole discussion of FLAC, why should I care when the music on my iPhone is being delivered? The audio settings are on the highest settings causing my data to go off the roof. The exact same source sounds like a nightclub in the Audi where as on the ML, it's a glorified boom box. I love the lexus for sure but in terms of music, they should have done better.
You must lay aside your prejudices and have faith. Because until you are prepared to accept Mark Levinson audio into your life, or at least your ears, as your music savior, how can you ever be free to see (hear) it for its potential? So judge it not for what it isn't, B&O, but be open to what it could be if only you would give it what it needs!!!! High Res audio!
And if you criticize the lack of quality of your audio system and then indicate you don't care about the quality of the source, how is that not contradictory? At least, that's what I'm assuming you meant, but I'm just trying to take from the context clues of that statement. For the record, lower-resolution music may not sound "bad." Still, it will be missing some fidelity and nuance the original recording would produce due to the compression and removal of elements from the source, thus potentially giving the impression the audio system isn't performing up to expectations. Plus, at higher volumes, you will likely hear the artifacts and miss certain quality elements that would be retained in better audio sources. Again, I don't know what kind you use; the listenin' kind? Just sayin'. Still, your expectations and perceptions are your own, and don't let anyone; including me, tell you otherwise—even if I'm right!😉
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I had a severe headache try to read few comments here I gave up, you guys take the audio aspect in a dam car wayyyy to serious LOL
Can't wait to hear how did you guys setup your surrounding audio on your living room or theater room at home
Can't wait to hear how did you guys setup your surrounding audio on your living room or theater room at home
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On the flip side, oh wait, no cassette tapes anymore, so no flip side.
We don't talk about audio/visuals in the house anymore; you don't EVEN want to know! Plus, this is a car forum, not a house forum. But then again, it's not a Tesla forum either, yet it still gets plenty of airtime!
Yeah, we don't talk about that anymore!
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It gave you a headache; you should have been the one trying to write it! Sheesh! 😉
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Geez, I hope that no one else asks any more questions about the audio system in our cars. For me it's done. I think everything that was asked and complained about was answered and more... Over and over. Even two threads going at the same time. Whew! enough... The most important people probably weren't even tuned in and don't give a crap... Lexus!!!
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Geez, I hope that no one else asks any more questions about the audio system in our cars. For me it's done. I think everything that was asked and complained about was answered and more... Over and over. Even two threads going at the same time. Whew! enough... The most important people probably weren't even tuned in and don't give a crap... Lexus!!! ![Cool](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/cool.gif)
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It's been marginally entertaining watching the blind leading the blind in this thread. Or perhaps, better stated, the deaf leading the deaf. ![Smilie](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
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So what's the best mileage interval to change my oil?
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Beolab 18 - Iconic Stereo Speakers for TV | B&O (bang-olufsen.com)
The Bose is good. very good to watch movies. It looks slim and clean. But I hardly watch much TV or even listen to music at home. My living room has two TVs. One is a Samsung frame that plays melodies for my cat and my dog when I'm away at work. The other is primarily switched off. That TV is a Samsung 8k Q900r which was by the way the worst purchase decision primarily due to the price. way too high
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Oh that is a whole different story. I have the bose lifestyle 650 and that too underperforms. For a home in a few years, I've spaced out the b&o for home as I've seen that perform at the showroom. This is what I'm looking at.
Beolab 18 - Iconic Stereo Speakers for TV | B&O (bang-olufsen.com)
The Bose is good. very good to watch movies. It looks slim and clean. But I hardly watch much TV or even listen to music at home. My living room has two TVs. One is a Samsung frame that plays melodies for my cat and my dog when I'm away at work. The other is primarily switched off. That TV is a Samsung 8k Q900r which was by the way the worst purchase decision primarily due to the price. way too high
Beolab 18 - Iconic Stereo Speakers for TV | B&O (bang-olufsen.com)
The Bose is good. very good to watch movies. It looks slim and clean. But I hardly watch much TV or even listen to music at home. My living room has two TVs. One is a Samsung frame that plays melodies for my cat and my dog when I'm away at work. The other is primarily switched off. That TV is a Samsung 8k Q900r which was by the way the worst purchase decision primarily due to the price. way too high
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tell us more about your cat and dog and how they feel about the audio quality of your system
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