2024 ES350 vs ES300h
08-19-23, 12:23 AM
#46
Huh please read and understand before you speak .
I said I have ML upgrade system .
if you want more detail information on my quote
Is that I don’t listen to the cars sound system cause I only listen to my AirPods while I drive
08-19-23, 12:29 AM
#47
08-19-23, 07:07 AM
#48
Lexus Champion
I think that heidihidin was just kidding you about calling it Mark Leversion vs. Levinson.
08-19-23, 08:21 AM
#49
Instructor
That's a good point, there may be a limit in torque capability through the e-CVT. Either way after having the RAV4 Prime powertrain in the garage for 2.5 years I love it. I really, really, really do wish my ES had it. The RAV4 is pretty unexciting otherwise, the powertrain is definitely my fave feature. Especially when we can get EV driving around town every day except in super cold. We hardly put gas in it unless it's on a road trip.
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08-21-23, 03:51 PM
#50
Driver School Candidate
Honestly After Having a 2023 Lexus ES 300H Hybrid for over 5 Weeks while my 2019 Lexus ES 350 UL was being fixed under warranty; if I could go back I WOULD PICK THE HYBRID HANDS Down. In this car the hybrid is WAY More quiet 90% of the time. You are NOT ROMPING on throttle 90% of the time; in my experience you would be cruising or stuck in Traffic in Bay Area California. The City MPG MAKES a HUGE Difference the cost savings IS WAY MORE Than ENOUGH PER Year to buy you a new hybrid battery. In Traffic or in Commute you will not notice the power of the V6; what you will notice is how Silky Silent the Hybrid is. That's my experience of having a 2023 Lexus ES 300H Hybrid for 5 Weeks while my 2019 Lexus ES 350 UL was in the dealer for warranty work.
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08-21-23, 03:56 PM
#51
10th Gear
Thread Starter
Honestly After Having a 2023 Lexus ES 300H Hybrid for over 5 Weeks while my 2019 Lexus ES 350 UL was being fixed under warranty if I could go back I WOULD USE THE HYBRID HANDS Down. In this car the hybrid is WAY More quiet 90% of the time. You are NOT ROMPING on throttle 90% of the time your cruising or stuck in Traffic in Bay Area California. The City MPG MAKES a HUGE Difference the cost savings IS WAY MORE Than ENOUGH PER Year to buy you a new hybrid battery. In Traffic or in Commute your not gonna notice the power of the V6 what you will notice is how Silky Silent the Hybrid is. That's my experience of having a 2023 Lexus ES 300H Hybrid for 5 Weeks while my 2019 Lexus ES 350 UL was in the dealer for warranty work.
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08-21-23, 04:00 PM
#52
Driver School Candidate
That’s what my reasoning ended up telling me. I did go back and test drive the hybrid and it has more than enough power for my needs even when not stuck in traffic. Now I’m patiently waiting for the dealer to get the one I want in a store trade and for everything to be finalized so I can get my ES300h.
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08-21-23, 04:36 PM
#53
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08-21-23, 05:13 PM
#54
Driver School Candidate
! I would suggest the illuminated Lexus sills if you value them and the Dash-Cam option or an after market dash cam (People like to cut off Lexuses; I don't know why...). For additional accessories I would also recommend all the value-priced Paint Protection Film by 3M Option for $450, rear bumper applique for $90, Door edge Film or guards for $95/$155 and a set of all-weather or diamond car mats.Honestly I would skip the ticking time bomb known as the Pano Roof after owning it for four years it developed a vibrating cracking sound every time I am on an ascending slope or sudden dips or increase in road undulations. Took the dealer 3-4 Weeks to Diagnose and fix it.
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08-21-23, 05:45 PM
#55
10th Gear
Thread Starter
Nice the same spec I would pick out too. ML Stereo is a must makes such a huge difference from the stock audio and the Triple Beams are nice at night and pleasing to
look at! I would suggest the illuminated Lexus sills if you value them and the Dash-Cam option or an after market dash cam (People like to cut off Lexuses; I don't know why...). For additional accessories I would also recommend all the value-priced Paint Protection Film by 3M Option for $450, rear bumper applique for $90, Door edge Film or guards for $95/$155 and a set of all-weather or diamond car mats. Honestly I would skip the ticking time bomb known as the Pano Roof after owning it for four years it developed a vibrating cracking sound every time on ascending slope and road undulations. Took the dealer 3-4 Weeks to Diagnose and fix it.
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! I would suggest the illuminated Lexus sills if you value them and the Dash-Cam option or an after market dash cam (People like to cut off Lexuses; I don't know why...). For additional accessories I would also recommend all the value-priced Paint Protection Film by 3M Option for $450, rear bumper applique for $90, Door edge Film or guards for $95/$155 and a set of all-weather or diamond car mats. Honestly I would skip the ticking time bomb known as the Pano Roof after owning it for four years it developed a vibrating cracking sound every time on ascending slope and road undulations. Took the dealer 3-4 Weeks to Diagnose and fix it.
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08-27-23, 08:57 PM
#56
I've heard it's hard to find the ES with 17" tires, even though they come standard on the base model.
Last edited by hotwings; 08-28-23 at 06:30 AM.
08-28-23, 02:45 AM
#57
Can you any other thoughts on 17" tires ? I'm in total agreement the 17" tires should give a better ride but have you experienced the difference vs 18" or bigger ? I worry about pot hole damage with the bigger tires, we have terrible roads in MA.
I've heard it's hard to find the ES with 17" tires, even though they come standard on the base model.
I've heard it's hard to find the ES with 17" tires, even though they come standard on the base model.
my 18 wheels are perfect quiet and does it job..
goes over bumps like notthing I mean if your gonna speed over bumps pothole etc your gonna hear the noise and bounce ..
I live in NYC roads here are like a roller coasters ride it’s so bad..
anything 50 on tires are good if above 50 is even much better
18 for me are great and I’ll a heavy footed person..
wouldn’t mind 17 If it came with it but no isssue on 18
Basically what I’m saying is more tire less rims is more comfortable but who has time and space to buy new rims and tires and somewhere to store.
again, I live in New York City. If I feel comfortable, driving it and smooth, then you’re good to go because it doesn’t get any worse than New York City roads.!
08-28-23, 05:01 AM
#58
The v6 is in its last leg of release. Its naturally aspirated and since you don't drive as much, in my opinion the v6 350 is the way to go. I got the 350 and love the way the car handles. Its smooth and has a lot of power. Note: the power is still lesser than my Audi q5 v6 turbo but it's still powerful. I never considered the hybrid as I absolutely detest the v4's. When I test drove the e300h, it was smooth to start with, except when I floored it from the "electric" state to engine. My observation on the es300h was that the car performed in a way that the gas was not being floored. It did drive fast but it went up in speed slowly. Once the engine came on, it sounded like a vacuum.
The es350 is consistent, powerful and the power is dependable and not having to switch modes. The car is overall silent anyways so the engine starting sound does not bother me. If they made the e300h with a v6, that would be my pick.
Good luck with your purchase and opinions.
The es350 is consistent, powerful and the power is dependable and not having to switch modes. The car is overall silent anyways so the engine starting sound does not bother me. If they made the e300h with a v6, that would be my pick.
Good luck with your purchase and opinions.
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08-28-23, 06:28 AM
#59
The v6 is in its last leg of release. Its naturally aspirated and since you don't drive as much, in my opinion the v6 350 is the way to go. I got the 350 and love the way the car handles. Its smooth and has a lot of power. Note: the power is still lesser than my Audi q5 v6 turbo but it's still powerful. I never considered the hybrid as I absolutely detest the v4's. When I test drove the e300h, it was smooth to start with, except when I floored it from the "electric" state to engine. My observation on the es300h was that the car performed in a way that the gas was not being floored. It did drive fast but it went up in speed slowly. Once the engine came on, it sounded like a vacuum.
The es350 is consistent, powerful and the power is dependable and not having to switch modes. The car is overall silent anyways so the engine starting sound does not bother me. If they made the e300h with a v6, that would be my pick.
Good luck with your purchase and opinions.
The es350 is consistent, powerful and the power is dependable and not having to switch modes. The car is overall silent anyways so the engine starting sound does not bother me. If they made the e300h with a v6, that would be my pick.
Good luck with your purchase and opinions.
I have not read a single complaint about the eCVT but there are complaints on the 8 speed although fewer in recent years. The hybrid seems like the right match for a someone who is 80% city 20% highway. The V6 seems like the right choice for a low mileage person who values stomping power on the highway. Somehow a 3700 pound car just does not seem well matched for a 4 Cyl non-turbo motor even if it does have the electric assist. But I get it, not everybody looks at the same car the same way.
08-28-23, 08:28 PM
#60
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