DavidZ

Thanks, UltraLux22 and signdetres, for your interesting and informative comments. Enjoy your new cars!

YumpinYiminy

Ya - That part didn't make any sense to me either.

mikemu30

Search YouTube for the story of a Hyundai Ionic one year old that could need a new battery for $60k, more than the car cost new. Hmmmm, maybe now we see why the EV market is going ice cold. And of course Hyundai's best warranty denied the claim.

ATL350

Hmmm, color me skeptical. Other cost estimates are way lower, at least in the US. I think this video is either misleading or there are other factors at play here.

YumpinYiminy

I'm sure you have a point here but what does Hyundai have to do with this guy changing from an $50000 ES to a $110000 BMW or Mercedes as an even trade?

signdetres

It's really not relevant other than trying to imply that because 1 Hyundai EV needed a new battery replaced that ALL EVs are junk and failing. Not a strong argument, nor relevant, nor factual.

mikemu30

It's not about Hyundai. The thread was questioning how one buys a $110k EV at such a huge discount. If that's not relevant, I don't know what is. Yeah it's likely an isolated incident. I'll stick with my ICE vehicle for a bit longer regardless.

Mike728

It's not even remotely relevant. I'm glad you figured that out by the end of your statement, though.

mikemu30

Try this if you don't understand why EV prices are melting down. Or perhaps irrelevant?

Mike728

Since you're continuing to post off-topic biased content, I'll add some factual data that will make your head spin!

Another Quarter, Another Record: EV Sales in the U.S. Surpass 300,000 in Q3, as Tesla Share of EV Segment Tumbles to 50%

Thursday October 12, 2023



https://www.coxautoinc.com/market-in...2023-ev-sales/

RudimentarySpoon

I found it odd that the window sticker for the Mercedes did not list any crash test ratings. Everyone knows Teslas are safe when in a crash, and they've done testing to that end. However, nothing for this EQS? No stars rating?!

signdetres

Usually expensive $100,000+ vehicles aren't crash tested by the IIHS. If you look at an S-Class, BMW 7-Series, Audi A8, etc you'll usually find the same thing.

That said, there are some crash test videos available for the EQS. It's a solid performer.

Here's the EQS SUV crash test against a smaller Mercedes EQA:


Here's the EQS Sedan crash test:

RudimentarySpoon

Thanks for these! I did not know they did not test the expensive cars. If that is the case, then how are their ratings and safety established? Just because a car has a lot of technology in it does not necessarily make the actual vehicle safe in an accident, imo. I think testing is a good thing!

signdetres

The manufacturers test every car they produce internally. It's the 3rd party agencies, like the IIHS, that don't test every car.