ES350 tire recommendations
11-10-23, 06:55 AM
#31
How recently have you bought the car?
I remember when I purchased my 2019 RX350, they came with hideous Bridgestone Ecopias.
I called the dealership with 10 days of purchase and asked for tire swap with another OEM option Michelin Premier (quiet, better ride quality)
They asked for $300 labor for a tire swap and i gladly jumped on the offer.
Talk to your salesperson - you may be surprised what they are willing to do for you, if they want to keep you happy.
Good luck.
I remember when I purchased my 2019 RX350, they came with hideous Bridgestone Ecopias.
I called the dealership with 10 days of purchase and asked for tire swap with another OEM option Michelin Premier (quiet, better ride quality)
They asked for $300 labor for a tire swap and i gladly jumped on the offer.
Talk to your salesperson - you may be surprised what they are willing to do for you, if they want to keep you happy.
Good luck.
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11-22-23, 09:18 PM
#32
Just replaced OEM Bridgestone Turanza on my 2020 ES with Continental ExtremeContact DWS6 Plus.
I planned on doing it anyway but $110 Continental promotion (until end of November) helped.
I had these Continentals on my LS460 for 5 years before I sold it - it was such a pleasure to ride them.
Bridgestones is just an utter junk - loud, unpredictable in holding the road, while ExtremeContact is a complete opposite.
Already tried them out in sub-wintry, rainy conditions and glad that got them.
I planned on doing it anyway but $110 Continental promotion (until end of November) helped.
I had these Continentals on my LS460 for 5 years before I sold it - it was such a pleasure to ride them.
Bridgestones is just an utter junk - loud, unpredictable in holding the road, while ExtremeContact is a complete opposite.
Already tried them out in sub-wintry, rainy conditions and glad that got them.
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11-22-23, 09:59 PM
#33
I absolutely wanted 17 in wheels in my 2024 ES350 but after checking with 4 different dealers, all present and future inventory was loaded with 18".
The salesmen all wanted to know why I was so adament on 17". My answers were the same: Better ride quality, better pot hole protection, better tread life and lower replacement cost. I think they even look better than low profile rubber band tires. The best I could do was negotiate removal of the $660 upcharge for 18" wheels.
One salesman pointed out the lower profile tires take high speed turns better and my response was I'm not buying a Ferrari.
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11-23-23, 04:32 AM
#34
Just replaced mine with the Goodyear - Assurance ComfortDrive - 235 /40 R19 and couldn't be happier. My wife, who never notices anything new, even commented on how much smoother and quieter they are.
11-23-23, 12:41 PM
#35
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12-02-23, 10:53 PM
#36
Thanks everyone for your input. Very much appreciated. your comments helped confirm my research … Michelin Primacy Tour AS - standard load (94V). Odd that some retailers only carry the XL load (98V) while others offer both standard load and XL. Since I’m interested in smooth, quiet and comfortable, I’m going with the standard load and speed rating (94V) that came with the car as OEM. Thanks again. This forum is very helpful.
12-04-23, 07:36 AM
#37
As pointed out above, that's an OEM tire for this car. I did have experience with it—about 200 miles of it, before I tore it off the car. But I'm in the Snow Belt, so one of the reasons for my distaste doesn't apply to you. One reason that DOES apply to you is its inferiority in standing-start traction, where the ES needs all the help it can get. I believe this tire was engineered for a smooth and quiet ride on the test drive, maximum mileage on the EPA cycle, and very little else. All engineering is a compromise, and whether you'd want this or one of Michelin's more versatile offerings depends on what performance characteristics you value.
12-09-23, 03:11 PM
#39
Lots of opinions
I thought it funny that you brought this topic up. I do have experience replacing stock Bridgestones on similar cars.
I've had such bad luck with stock Bridgestones that I told the dealer to swap them with another car that had the Michilins or I'm not buying. They did! 2024 ES350 new 11/30/2023.
Since you don't have to deal with winter conditions I think any of your mention tires would be a good choice. I personally would try the Goodyears. I've tried the different styles of 3 different vehicles (Toyotas) and have been very happy. I would search tire rack reviews for your car and the tires your looking at. It helps.
I've had such bad luck with stock Bridgestones that I told the dealer to swap them with another car that had the Michilins or I'm not buying. They did! 2024 ES350 new 11/30/2023.
Since you don't have to deal with winter conditions I think any of your mention tires would be a good choice. I personally would try the Goodyears. I've tried the different styles of 3 different vehicles (Toyotas) and have been very happy. I would search tire rack reviews for your car and the tires your looking at. It helps.
12-10-23, 01:03 PM
#40
OP, which tire did you end up getting? I've been looking at replacing tires on my '22 ES350 and I saw that Costco has a deal going for the Firestone Firehawk AS 2 tires.
I've been looking for reviews on these tires and there doesn't seem to be as many I thought there would be. Looking at the design, it looks very similar to the Conti DWS tires... Anyone have experience with these Firestones?
I've also been looking at the Goodyears and Pirelli P7 AS 3 like you OP.
I've been looking for reviews on these tires and there doesn't seem to be as many I thought there would be. Looking at the design, it looks very similar to the Conti DWS tires... Anyone have experience with these Firestones?
I've also been looking at the Goodyears and Pirelli P7 AS 3 like you OP.
12-10-23, 03:27 PM
#41
OP, which tire did you end up getting? I've been looking at replacing tires on my '22 ES350 and I saw that Costco has a deal going for the Firestone Firehawk AS 2 tires.
I've been looking for reviews on these tires and there doesn't seem to be as many I thought there would be. Looking at the design, it looks very similar to the Conti DWS tires... Anyone have experience with these Firestones?
I've also been looking at the Goodyears and Pirelli P7 AS 3 like you OP.
I've been looking for reviews on these tires and there doesn't seem to be as many I thought there would be. Looking at the design, it looks very similar to the Conti DWS tires... Anyone have experience with these Firestones?
I've also been looking at the Goodyears and Pirelli P7 AS 3 like you OP.
12-10-23, 07:02 PM
#42
My 18 inch Bridgestones aren’t amazing but reasonably smooth and not too noisy now at 15,000 miles. They’re a little more than half worn based on tread depth.
Im more disappointed in the Bridgestone Potenzas 19 inch on my wife’s IS350 FS howwver theyrebgetying pretty loud at 8,000 miles and wearing quickly. They also tramline a lot.
Im more disappointed in the Bridgestone Potenzas 19 inch on my wife’s IS350 FS howwver theyrebgetying pretty loud at 8,000 miles and wearing quickly. They also tramline a lot.
12-10-23, 07:08 PM
#43
My 18 inch Bridgestones aren’t amazing but reasonably smooth and not too noisy now at 15,000 miles. They’re a little more than half worn based on tread depth.
Im more disappointed in the Bridgestone Potenzas 19 inch on my wife’s IS350 FS howwver theyrebgetying pretty loud at 8,000 miles and wearing quickly. They also tramline a lot.
Im more disappointed in the Bridgestone Potenzas 19 inch on my wife’s IS350 FS howwver theyrebgetying pretty loud at 8,000 miles and wearing quickly. They also tramline a lot.
12-10-23, 09:07 PM
#44
Thank you. I'm not too concerned with pricing, but I also take sales/discounts into consideration when available. I've had Michelin Pilots and Continental Extreme Sport (whatever they're called nowadays) on my previous vehicles. Just not sure if I should look into that versus all seasons this time around. I don't live anywhere near snow so performance in that respect doesn't matter to me.
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12-10-23, 10:29 PM
#45
In fairness to Bridgestone, we should keep in mind that afternarket tires are different from a tire brand's OEM tires — even when the two have the exact same names. The OEM tires are made to the carmaker's specifications, and reflect the carmaker's priorities. In the case of the ES, those priorities are a quiet, smooth ride and low rolling resistance for high MPG in the official EPA test, since the EPA requires the test to be conducted with the car equipped exactly the way it'll be when sold to the folks. Other competing priorities like traction often are relatively neglected, especially in a car like ours that's marketed with few sporting pretensions.
Also as a clarification the S001L Potenza tires on my wife’s IS are made specifically for Lexus for the F Sport ID350 but the EL440 tires on my ES are not specific to Lexus and are equipped on many different cars some of which are essentially economy cars. Most mainstream cars have “off the rack” tires not custom tires.