New Gen Camry is All Hybrid
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No new-Gen Camry models will have non-hybrid engines. I prefer ordinary, non-hybrid internal combustion like my 2021 ES 350. Does this suggest the 2025 Lexus ES will follow suit? If so, I may panic and buy a “left over” 2024 model in winter 2025 and be set for the rest of my life.
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Exactly same as my situation. I may simply sit tight with my beautiful 2021 ES 350. Only 14K miles on her now and, at that rate, absolutely should be good for an other 15 years, the end of my driving years.
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I had the same V6 in my 2013 Avalon. Only 48,000 in 11 years and just basic maintenance. If it road as nice as my new ES 350, I wouldn't have sold it. That was the 268 HP. It had good get up and go. I want to see how the new 302 HP moves but I'm still on break-in miles. Yes, I'm changing oil and filter around 1000 miles. ![Woot](https://www.clublexus.com/forums/images/smilies/woot.gif)
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It's a shame how lazy the "new" Camry is, but also expected as SUVs/crossovers get the development dollars. Expect to see future cars get the back burner. At least Honda managed to give the appearance of an all-new design with all new sheet-metal whereas Toyota largely re-used the same doors and just gave the front the bottle-nose Lexus RX treatment. The interior is the more decent upgrade, in red. In other colors it looks meh. Not a fan of the lobster claw "hook" type tail lights and headlights. Those don't age well and get updated at the mid cycle refresh. Toyota did this for the 2012 camry already. and honda did the hook tail lights with the last gen accord.
At least the Lexus ES starts with a much better looking version than the Camry so my hope is something based on ES should look decent. You guys think the next ES (2026 probably) will get the same doors as 2019 ES? if so, would you be disappointed? Or do you think it will get a Honda-style re-skin with all new exterior metal?
Based on that "official" grayscale cartoon drawing some poster posted up a while ago, it appears Lexus is largely recyling the 7ES and giving it really slim/angular headlights with a really pointy front bumper. but the side looks largely the same.
At least the Lexus ES starts with a much better looking version than the Camry so my hope is something based on ES should look decent. You guys think the next ES (2026 probably) will get the same doors as 2019 ES? if so, would you be disappointed? Or do you think it will get a Honda-style re-skin with all new exterior metal?
Based on that "official" grayscale cartoon drawing some poster posted up a while ago, it appears Lexus is largely recyling the 7ES and giving it really slim/angular headlights with a really pointy front bumper. but the side looks largely the same.
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