How to find out which prior model years had acoustic glass (ES 300h)?
12-12-23, 10:06 PM
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How to find out which prior model years had acoustic glass (ES 300h)?
I am in the market for a used 2015-2019 300h but primarily concentrating on the 2017-2018 model years. Leaning more towards 2018* because it's the start of the 7th gen and I hear that the 7th gen has more noise dampening material than the 6th generation.
As it relates to acoustic windows outside of the windshield, I am having difficulty figuring out which cars do have the other windows that are acoustically-treated.
Is there any easy way to figure out which model years, and which trim levels (if needed), have the acoustic glass all around?
I am not sure if it's by trim (luxury, ultra luxury), or just straight model year that has all windows as acoustic.
* According to Wikipedia; apparently, according to these forums, the 7th gen starts with the 2019 model year.
In any case, my budget is probably not going to exceed $30k, so it is what it is on what I end up with.
This would be my first non-Ford purchase, so I am a bit out of my element here!
As it relates to acoustic windows outside of the windshield, I am having difficulty figuring out which cars do have the other windows that are acoustically-treated.
Is there any easy way to figure out which model years, and which trim levels (if needed), have the acoustic glass all around?
I am not sure if it's by trim (luxury, ultra luxury), or just straight model year that has all windows as acoustic.
* According to Wikipedia; apparently, according to these forums, the 7th gen starts with the 2019 model year.
In any case, my budget is probably not going to exceed $30k, so it is what it is on what I end up with.
This would be my first non-Ford purchase, so I am a bit out of my element here!
12-12-23, 10:15 PM
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2019+ is the new model. 2013-2018 is the old model.
Personally, with 30K I would search for a 2016-2018 model.
For the 2019+ model, only Luxury and Ultra Luxury have double glazing front side windows.
Personally, with 30K I would search for a 2016-2018 model.
For the 2019+ model, only Luxury and Ultra Luxury have double glazing front side windows.
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12-12-23, 10:22 PM
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I am in the market for a used 2015-2019 300h but primarily concentrating on the 2017-2018 model years. Leaning more towards 2018* because it's the start of the 7th gen and I hear that the 7th gen has more noise dampening material than the 6th generation.
As it relates to acoustic windows outside of the windshield, I am having difficulty figuring out which cars do have the other windows that are acoustically-treated.
Is there any easy way to figure out which model years, and which trim levels (if needed), have the acoustic glass all around?
I am not sure if it's by trim (luxury, ultra luxury), or just straight model year that has all windows as acoustic.
* According to Wikipedia; apparently, according to these forums, the 7th gen starts with the 2019 model year.
In any case, my budget is probably not going to exceed $30k, so it is what it is on what I end up with.
This would be my first non-Ford purchase, so I am a bit out of my element here!
As it relates to acoustic windows outside of the windshield, I am having difficulty figuring out which cars do have the other windows that are acoustically-treated.
Is there any easy way to figure out which model years, and which trim levels (if needed), have the acoustic glass all around?
I am not sure if it's by trim (luxury, ultra luxury), or just straight model year that has all windows as acoustic.
* According to Wikipedia; apparently, according to these forums, the 7th gen starts with the 2019 model year.
In any case, my budget is probably not going to exceed $30k, so it is what it is on what I end up with.
This would be my first non-Ford purchase, so I am a bit out of my element here!
The Luxury and Ultra lux trims (v6 and hybrid) have acoustic glass on the front windows, I think. To be honest I don't know what is "acoustic glass" really, is it double-sided panel or laminated glass, just so it reduce noise a bit better?
However, I'd recommend, for 7th gen ES, get 2020+ ES that manufactured after Oct 2019 to get both Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, as well as auto folding side mirrors.
For $30K you will probably end up with 50K - 80K+ mileage one, which is mint for a Lexus
12-12-23, 10:45 PM
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7th gen ES in the US starts in 2019.
The Luxury and Ultra lux trims (v6 and hybrid) have acoustic glass on the front windows, I think. To be honest I don't know what is "acoustic glass" really, is it double-sided panel or laminated glass, just so it reduce noise a bit better?
However, I'd recommend, for 7th gen ES, get 2020+ ES that manufactured after Oct 2019 to get both Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, as well as auto folding side mirrors.
For $30K you will probably end up with 50K - 80K+ mileage one, which is mint for a Lexus
The Luxury and Ultra lux trims (v6 and hybrid) have acoustic glass on the front windows, I think. To be honest I don't know what is "acoustic glass" really, is it double-sided panel or laminated glass, just so it reduce noise a bit better?
However, I'd recommend, for 7th gen ES, get 2020+ ES that manufactured after Oct 2019 to get both Apple CarPlay and Android Auto, as well as auto folding side mirrors.
For $30K you will probably end up with 50K - 80K+ mileage one, which is mint for a Lexus
I think a 2020 model is going to be out of my budget, and perhaps I might get lucky with a higher mileage 2019. Unfortunately, I might just get stuck with a 2018 model.
Can OEM CarPlay and AA be added on afterwards to a 6th gen (or even a 2019) system?
12-12-23, 11:29 PM
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7th gen ES in the US starts in 2019.
The Luxury and Ultra lux trims (v6 and hybrid) have acoustic glass on the front windows, I think. To be honest I don't know what is "acoustic glass" really, is it double-sided panel or laminated glass, just so it reduce noise a bit better?
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The Luxury and Ultra lux trims (v6 and hybrid) have acoustic glass on the front windows, I think. To be honest I don't know what is "acoustic glass" really, is it double-sided panel or laminated glass, just so it reduce noise a bit better?
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The same Lamisafe type of glass is also used for the windshield.
An easy way to verify the type of Lexus OEM glass that is installed is to look at the glass "bug" printed on each glass pane. For the front side windows the bug is located in the bottom rear corner. The top printed line is logo stylized LEXUS and the bottom printed line will include LAMISAFE if the front side window is indeed laminated automotive window glass.
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12-13-23, 06:45 AM
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An easy way to verify the type of Lexus OEM glass that is installed is to look at the glass "bug" printed on each glass pane. For the front side windows the bug is located in the bottom rear corner. The top printed line is logo stylized LEXUS and the bottom printed line will include LAMISAFE if the front side window is indeed laminated automotive window glass.
If it has acoustic glass, it will look like the above.
12-13-23, 03:21 PM
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When you're out shopping for a used Lexus ES like RudimentarySpoon is, how many ESs on the used car for sale lot are going to have their windows open enough to check the window edge for the lamination characteristic?
As discussed in my previous past #5, no 7th generation Lexus ES is equipped with laminated acoustic window glass (i.e., "acoustic glass" using your terminology). The laminated glass used in the front windows for so equipped ESs is just plain Jane laminated window glass from the AGC Automotive Lamisafe product line.
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12-13-23, 11:19 PM
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That way doesn't work if the windows are closed.
When you're out shopping for a used Lexus ES like RudimentarySpoon is, how many ESs on the used car for sale lot are going to have their windows open enough to check the window edge for the lamination characteristic?
As discussed in my previous past #5, no 7th generation Lexus ES is equipped with laminated acoustic window glass (i.e., "acoustic glass" using your terminology). The laminated glass used in the front windows for so equipped ESs is just plain Jane laminated window glass from the AGC Automotive Lamisafe product line.
When you're out shopping for a used Lexus ES like RudimentarySpoon is, how many ESs on the used car for sale lot are going to have their windows open enough to check the window edge for the lamination characteristic?
As discussed in my previous past #5, no 7th generation Lexus ES is equipped with laminated acoustic window glass (i.e., "acoustic glass" using your terminology). The laminated glass used in the front windows for so equipped ESs is just plain Jane laminated window glass from the AGC Automotive Lamisafe product line.
Might just be safer to get a 6th generation, which I believe may have that type of glass available. However, it may be for a higher trim which I may or may not be able to find easily on the used market.
12-14-23, 12:20 AM
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Yes, sorry I am not too familiar with the terminology yet, but basically just the dual paned glass with a layer (air?) in the middle to reduce road noise, etc.
I think a 2020 model is going to be out of my budget, and perhaps I might get lucky with a higher mileage 2019. Unfortunately, I might just get stuck with a 2018 model.
Can OEM CarPlay and AA be added on afterwards to a 6th gen (or even a 2019) system?
I think a 2020 model is going to be out of my budget, and perhaps I might get lucky with a higher mileage 2019. Unfortunately, I might just get stuck with a 2018 model.
Can OEM CarPlay and AA be added on afterwards to a 6th gen (or even a 2019) system?
I'd not spend ~$30K to get a 6th gen ES, a brand new 2024 ES - base model, starts at around $43K, with current economy (Dealers is slow on selling) I'm pretty sure you can get it for ~$40K out of door, latest and greatest tech and feature, why settle for a 2018 that probably has a lot mileage???
At the very least, go for an used 2019, it has (wired) Apple Carplay if it was manufacture after Oct. 2018, I'm pretty sure there are TONs of 19 and 20 ES out there for $30K, the mileage will be 50K+ which is nothing for Lexus, just don't buy anything close to 100K miles, because you will be spending thousands in big maintenance at ~100K interval
In about 12-18 months, 8th gen ES will come out, you def. don't want to buy a 6th gen today, make no sense whatsoever to me.
If you insist on buying a 6th, get a 2016 - same car as 2018, save more $.
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12-14-23, 11:41 PM
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No you can't just add CarPlay and AA to 6th ES, you have to switch the head unit for an after market one. 19 ES has Carplay (if manufacture after 10/2018) and you can't add AA to it.
I'd not spend ~$30K to get a 6th gen ES, a brand new 2024 ES - base model, starts at around $43K, with current economy (Dealers is slow on selling) I'm pretty sure you can get it for ~$40K out of door, latest and greatest tech and feature, why settle for a 2018 that probably has a lot mileage???
At the very least, go for an used 2019, it has (wired) Apple Carplay if it was manufacture after Oct. 2018, I'm pretty sure there are TONs of 19 and 20 ES out there for $30K, the mileage will be 50K+ which is nothing for Lexus, just don't buy anything close to 100K miles, because you will be spending thousands in big maintenance at ~100K interval
In about 12-18 months, 8th gen ES will come out, you def. don't want to buy a 6th gen today, make no sense whatsoever to me.
If you insist on buying a 6th, get a 2016 - same car as 2018, save more $.
I'd not spend ~$30K to get a 6th gen ES, a brand new 2024 ES - base model, starts at around $43K, with current economy (Dealers is slow on selling) I'm pretty sure you can get it for ~$40K out of door, latest and greatest tech and feature, why settle for a 2018 that probably has a lot mileage???
At the very least, go for an used 2019, it has (wired) Apple Carplay if it was manufacture after Oct. 2018, I'm pretty sure there are TONs of 19 and 20 ES out there for $30K, the mileage will be 50K+ which is nothing for Lexus, just don't buy anything close to 100K miles, because you will be spending thousands in big maintenance at ~100K interval
In about 12-18 months, 8th gen ES will come out, you def. don't want to buy a 6th gen today, make no sense whatsoever to me.
If you insist on buying a 6th, get a 2016 - same car as 2018, save more $.
I didn't realize the 8th gen is only 12-18 months out. Not sure if I want to wait that long because I am in a focus with a model that has transmission issues. No clue if I can get that far haha.
12-15-23, 07:21 AM
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Just a point of clarification. If so inclined you can buy a GROM V-line adapter (aftermarket module sells for <$700) and it will add AA or Carplay to your 6th gen ES.
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12-16-23, 05:34 AM
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I am in the market for a used 2015-2019 300h but primarily concentrating on the 2017-2018 model years. Leaning more towards 2018* because it's the start of the 7th gen and I hear that the 7th gen has more noise dampening material than the 6th generation.
As it relates to acoustic windows outside of the windshield, I am having difficulty figuring out which cars do have the other windows that are acoustically-treated.
Is there any easy way to figure out which model years, and which trim levels (if needed), have the acoustic glass all around?
I am not sure if it's by trim (luxury, ultra luxury), or just straight model year that has all windows as acoustic.
* According to Wikipedia; apparently, according to these forums, the 7th gen starts with the 2019 model year.
In any case, my budget is probably not going to exceed $30k, so it is what it is on what I end up with.
This would be my first non-Ford purchase, so I am a bit out of my element here!
As it relates to acoustic windows outside of the windshield, I am having difficulty figuring out which cars do have the other windows that are acoustically-treated.
Is there any easy way to figure out which model years, and which trim levels (if needed), have the acoustic glass all around?
I am not sure if it's by trim (luxury, ultra luxury), or just straight model year that has all windows as acoustic.
* According to Wikipedia; apparently, according to these forums, the 7th gen starts with the 2019 model year.
In any case, my budget is probably not going to exceed $30k, so it is what it is on what I end up with.
This would be my first non-Ford purchase, so I am a bit out of my element here!
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12-16-23, 08:55 AM
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I had a 2013 Avalon limited. It had the double pane sound deadening glass on the windshield and front side windows. I would think any ES going back that far should have it. One way to tell is to roll down the driver window. Looking at the top of the glass you should be able to see a faint line where the 2 pieces of glass were laminated together.
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