Originally Posted by Wilson2000

I agree with most of what you said in your post. I question the interval on the V6 plug replacement, however, as my 2011 V6 has a 120K mile interval. ...

Originally Posted by Wilson2000

I agree with most of what you said in your post. I question the interval on the V6 plug replacement, however, as my 2011 V6 has a 120K mile interval.

Originally Posted by Shaboom

Haha…Thanks but I’m just an old man and like Diogenes, I’m still searching for the truth….

Originally Posted by grp52

If you're located in an area where you're eligible for federal Emission Performance Warranty coverage, there are some things covered for eight years or 80,000 miles, whichever occurs first. Also, if you're located in an area/state where you're eligible for California Emissions Control Warranty coverage, there some things covered for a long term of seven years or 70,000 miles, whichever occurs first.

Originally Posted by LexFinally

I was surprised myself by the spark plug replacement interval. My best guess is that it's because of the greater potential for carbon fouling since the engine added direct injection in 2019, but I'm only guessing.

Originally Posted by Wilson2000

Not to beat a dead horse, but, I wish everyone lived by your philosophy. If so, life and the human condition could be vastly improved. Opinions are fine, it's people's certainty that's an issue. We can't learn anything new when we already have all the answers!

Originally Posted by Wilson2000

I've been in the market for a new ES 300h Luxury for years, but haven't pulled the trigger due to low inventory and high prices. Now I can get a 2024 in the color and trim I want, with a $3K discount off the MSRP. But also now, we're about nine months shy of seeing the 8th gen, 2025 model in showrooms. I wondering if it is worth waiting for. The preview videos on YouTube aren't particularly illuminating, but from what I have seen, it looks like the 2025 grill is unfortunately getting bigger still. I like the idea of getting the latest/greatest in innovation and technology, but I'm also weary of buying the 8th-generation incarnation the first year it debuts. Any opinions or advice out there to help me decide? When paying almost $60K out the door, I want to make a good decision. Thanks in advance for your reply.

Originally Posted by 703

As the new 2024 Camry is on sale soon. The new generation ES won’t be far behind. Expect announcement this year and be on the same engine and eAWD of the Camry.

Originally Posted by asadani

I have the 2023 ES350 and the 2024 RX 350 hybrid.
the v6 on the ES is butter smooth, no matter what anyone says it is smooth and has a torque to it that you will love. The RX is silent to start but once you push the car, the torque is missing and is in no comparison to the v6. Not to mention the vacuum cleaner noise that comes on the RX.

I hope they keep the v6 on the 2025 but if not, it's a hard press to let the v6 go as a car. In my case, I would get a BMW or something else that has a v6 or go for an all-electric tesla. For sure the hybrid on Lexus is out of my books forever. my personal preference, is they honestly s***.

Originally Posted by TDRyan

Lexus never seems to completely redesign anything. The new RX and IS models are 95% the same vehicle. The GX will be the first real redesign. This being said, I bought a 300h F-Sport Handling on Saturday because I saved $9,500 off MSRP. I pointed out the redesign and my price negotiations lasted 20 minutes at the most with a ceramic tint thrown in. Judging by all the new models that are out, the ES will get that ‘snub nosed’ look (not a fan) and more than likely a price increase. I would rather have the savings on the MPG and price now.

Originally Posted by mikemu30

Wow killer deal. Was that on a 23 or 24? Well done. I still hear some folks thinking they have to pay msrp plus - what rock are they hiding under.

Originally Posted by Shaboom

Credible media reports show new car supply on many models increasing and price flexibility at dealerships increasing, as well. 5% or slightly more off MSRP is becoming a reasonable and not at all unusual objective (watch out for hidden charges like “dealership fee” of $900, etc.). End of 2024 model year may be an especially opportune time to buy a MY 2024, 7 Gen ES 350 at a good price if you’re flexible on color, packages, etc.

Originally Posted by mikemu30

His deal is about 15% or better. 5% is a bad deal these days.

Originally Posted by ESh

2024 Camry is the old model. The new model will be 2025 MY.
I expect the eighth generation ES to be 2026 MY.